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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] mac80211: set NETIF_F_LLTX when using intermediate tx queues
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:18:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wojut7f7.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190416131346.u2uolljlrd5t2jro@gondor.apana.org.au>

Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:39:56AM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
>> 
>> > not to mention
>> > breaking certain applications that rely on congestion feedback?
>> 
>> This I don't understand. The congestion feedback happens through socket
>> buffer space etc. which is still there (as long as nobody sneaks in an
>> skb_orphan() call)
>
> The congestion control happens at two levels. You are right that the
> socket buffer acts as one limit. However, other applications may also
> rely on the TX queue being full as the throttle (by setting a
> sufficiently large socket buffer size).

Do you happen to have an example of an application that does this that
could be used for testing? :)

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-16 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190316170634.13125-1-nbd@nbd.name>
     [not found] ` <20190316170634.13125-5-nbd@nbd.name>
     [not found]   ` <87sgvmvg9g.fsf@toke.dk>
     [not found]     ` <773e4dff-29fd-22b4-e4bc-cd5a94c66dc2@broadcom.com>
     [not found]       ` <20190416074444.pdubbh6fbibdnhi7@gondor.apana.org.au>
     [not found]         ` <73b18131-2777-da5c-a6ee-9d9b3e13cd06@broadcom.com>
     [not found]           ` <20190416083636.5ttvezqyhzr2worg@gondor.apana.org.au>
     [not found]             ` <eab39dd804405854997e50102f3d0ff925feb8d2.camel@sipsolutions.net>
     [not found]               ` <cd0715bb-b75c-63b0-0ae4-858d14afd500@broadcom.com>
2019-04-16  9:29                 ` [PATCH 5/5] mac80211: set NETIF_F_LLTX when using intermediate tx queues Herbert Xu
     [not found]               ` <87ef62uwfm.fsf@toke.dk>
     [not found]                 ` <95f86cf69dee05a176625925657cf0df0e97b5c9.camel@sipsolutions.net>
2019-04-16  9:37                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-16  9:39                     ` Johannes Berg
2019-04-16 10:02                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-04-17  2:11                         ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-17  8:28                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-04-16 13:13                       ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-16 13:18                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-04-17  3:38                           ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-17  9:09                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-04-17  9:16                               ` Arend Van Spriel
2019-04-17  9:17                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-04-23 12:41                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-04-25  8:35                                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-25  8:39                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-04-25  8:44                                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-04-25  8:49                                       ` Johannes Berg
2019-04-16 19:13                         ` Johannes Berg
2019-04-17  2:13                           ` Herbert Xu

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