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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Marcus Wichelmann <marcus.wichelmann@hetzner-cloud.de>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] veth: TX drops with NAPI enabled and crash in combination with qdisc
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:15:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfemtbah.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9da42688-bfaa-4364-8797-e9271f3bdaef@hetzner-cloud.de>

Marcus Wichelmann <marcus.wichelmann@hetzner-cloud.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> while experimenting with XDP_REDIRECT from a veth-pair to another interface, I
> noticed that the veth-pair looses lots of packets when multiple TCP streams go
> through it, resulting in stalling TCP connections and noticeable instabilities.
>
> This doesn't seem to be an issue with just XDP but rather occurs whenever the
> NAPI mode of the veth driver is active.
> I managed to reproduce the same behavior just by bringing the veth-pair into
> NAPI mode (see commit d3256efd8e8b ("veth: allow enabling NAPI even without
> XDP")) and running multiple TCP streams through it using a network namespace.
>
> Here is how I reproduced it:
>
>   ip netns add lb
>   ip link add dev to-lb type veth peer name in-lb netns lb
>
>   # Enable NAPI
>   ethtool -K to-lb gro on
>   ethtool -K to-lb tso off
>   ip netns exec lb ethtool -K in-lb gro on
>   ip netns exec lb ethtool -K in-lb tso off
>
>   ip link set dev to-lb up
>   ip -netns lb link set dev in-lb up
>
> Then run a HTTP server inside the "lb" namespace that serves a large file:
>
>   fallocate -l 10G testfiles/10GB.bin
>   caddy file-server --root testfiles/
>
> Download this file from within the root namespace multiple times in parallel:
>
>   curl http://[fe80::...%to-lb]/10GB.bin -o /dev/null
>
> In my tests, I ran four parallel curls at the same time and after just a few
> seconds, three of them stalled while the other one "won" over the full bandwidth
> and completed the download.
>
> This is probably a result of the veth's ptr_ring running full, causing many
> packet drops on TX, and the TCP congestion control reacting to that.
>
> In this context, I also took notice of Jesper's patch which describes a very
> similar issue and should help to resolve this:
>   commit dc82a33297fc ("veth: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to
>   reduce TX drops")
>
> But when repeating the above test with latest mainline, which includes this
> patch, and enabling qdisc via
>   tc qdisc add dev in-lb root sfq perturb 10
> the Kernel crashed just after starting the second TCP stream (see output below).
>
> So I have two questions:
> - Is my understanding of the described issue correct and is Jesper's patch
>   sufficient to solve this?

Hmm, yeah, this does sound likely.

> - Is my qdisc configuration to make use of this patch correct and the kernel
>   crash is likely a bug?
>
> ------------[ cut here ]------------
> UBSAN: array-index-out-of-bounds in net/sched/sch_sfq.c:203:12
> index 65535 is out of range for type 'sfq_head [128]'

This (the 'index 65535') kinda screams "integer underflow". So certainly
looks like a kernel bug, yeah. Don't see any obvious reason why Jesper's
patch would trigger this; maybe Eric has an idea?

Does this happen with other qdiscs as well, or is it specific to sfq?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04 15:33 [BUG] veth: TX drops with NAPI enabled and crash in combination with qdisc Marcus Wichelmann
2025-06-05 16:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2025-06-05 16:46   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-06-05 22:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-06-05 22:17       ` Marcus Wichelmann
2025-06-06  9:06         ` Eric Dumazet
2025-06-10 14:40           ` Marcus Wichelmann
2025-06-10 14:49             ` Eric Dumazet

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