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* [RFC PATCH net-next 0/1] Allow 0.0.0.0/8 as a valid address range
@ 2019-06-13 16:10 Dave Taht
  2019-06-13 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/1] " Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2019-06-13 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev; +Cc: Dave Taht

My talk's slides and video at netdev 0x13 about

"Potential IPv4 Unicast expansions" is up, here: 

https://netdevconf.org/0x13/session.html?talk-ipv4-unicast-expansions

There are roughly 419 million IPv4 addresses that are unallocated and
unused in the 0, localhost, reserved future multicast, and 240/4
spaces.

Linux already supports 240/4 fully. SDN's such as AWS already support
the entire IPv4 address space as a unicast playground.

This first patch for 0/8 is intended primarily as a conversation
starter - arguably we should rename the function across 22 fairly
"hot" files - but:

Should Linux treat these ranges as policy, and no longer enforce via
mechanism?

A full patchset for the remainder of the address spaces is on github:
https://github.com/dtaht/unicast-extensions

with the very few needed patches for routing daemons and BSD also
available there.

Dave Taht (1):
  Allow 0.0.0.0/8 as a valid address range

 include/linux/in.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

-- 
2.17.1


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* [RFC PATCH net-next 1/1] Allow 0.0.0.0/8 as a valid address range
  2019-06-13 16:10 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/1] Allow 0.0.0.0/8 as a valid address range Dave Taht
@ 2019-06-13 16:10 ` Dave Taht
  2019-06-13 16:52   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2019-06-13 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev; +Cc: Dave Taht

The longstanding prohibition against using 0.0.0.0/8 dates back
to two issues with the early internet.

There was an interoperability problem with BSD 4.2 in 1984, fixed in
BSD 4.3 in 1986. BSD 4.2 has long since been retired. 

Secondly, addresses of the form 0.x.y.z were initially defined only as
a source address in an ICMP datagram, indicating "node number x.y.z on
this IPv4 network", by nodes that know their address on their local
network, but do not yet know their network prefix, in RFC0792 (page
19).  This usage of 0.x.y.z was later repealed in RFC1122 (section
3.2.2.7), because the original ICMP-based mechanism for learning the
network prefix was unworkable on many networks such as Ethernet (which
have longer addresses that would not fit into the 24 "node number"
bits).  Modern networks use reverse ARP (RFC0903) or BOOTP (RFC0951)
or DHCP (RFC2131) to find their full 32-bit address and CIDR netmask
(and other parameters such as default gateways). 0.x.y.z has had
16,777,215 addresses in 0.0.0.0/8 space left unused and reserved for
future use, since 1989.

This patch allows for these 16m new IPv4 addresses to appear within
a box or on the wire. Layer 2 switches don't care.

0.0.0.0/32 is still prohibited, of course.

Signed-off-by: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>

---
 include/linux/in.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/in.h b/include/linux/in.h
index 4d2fedfb753a..1873ef642605 100644
--- a/include/linux/in.h
+++ b/include/linux/in.h
@@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ static inline bool ipv4_is_all_snoopers(__be32 addr)
 
 static inline bool ipv4_is_zeronet(__be32 addr)
 {
-	return (addr & htonl(0xff000000)) == htonl(0x00000000);
+	return (addr == 0);
 }
 
 /* Special-Use IPv4 Addresses (RFC3330) */
-- 
2.17.1


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* Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 1/1] Allow 0.0.0.0/8 as a valid address range
  2019-06-13 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/1] " Dave Taht
@ 2019-06-13 16:52   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen @ 2019-06-13 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht, netdev; +Cc: Dave Taht

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

> The longstanding prohibition against using 0.0.0.0/8 dates back
> to two issues with the early internet.
>
> There was an interoperability problem with BSD 4.2 in 1984, fixed in
> BSD 4.3 in 1986. BSD 4.2 has long since been retired. 
>
> Secondly, addresses of the form 0.x.y.z were initially defined only as
> a source address in an ICMP datagram, indicating "node number x.y.z on
> this IPv4 network", by nodes that know their address on their local
> network, but do not yet know their network prefix, in RFC0792 (page
> 19).  This usage of 0.x.y.z was later repealed in RFC1122 (section
> 3.2.2.7), because the original ICMP-based mechanism for learning the
> network prefix was unworkable on many networks such as Ethernet (which
> have longer addresses that would not fit into the 24 "node number"
> bits).  Modern networks use reverse ARP (RFC0903) or BOOTP (RFC0951)
> or DHCP (RFC2131) to find their full 32-bit address and CIDR netmask
> (and other parameters such as default gateways). 0.x.y.z has had
> 16,777,215 addresses in 0.0.0.0/8 space left unused and reserved for
> future use, since 1989.
>
> This patch allows for these 16m new IPv4 addresses to appear within
> a box or on the wire. Layer 2 switches don't care.
>
> 0.0.0.0/32 is still prohibited, of course.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>

Well, I see no reason why we shouldn't allow this.

Acked-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>

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