Re: [PATCH 1/6] bus: Add shared MDIO bus framework

Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27T09:28:33Z

On Wednesday 27 April 2016 10:16:40 Anup Patel wrote:

> It is really interesting to see the evolution of MDIO bus:
>
> 1. Traditionally, MDIO controller used to be part of each ethernet controller
> itself so each ethernet controller used to have it's own 2 wire MDIO bus
>
> 2. Next, we saw SoC with multiple ethernet controllers sharing same MDIO
> bus. In other words, we saw multiple MDIO bus being muxed over single
> MDIO bus with additional bus select lines (I think this is when
> drivers/net/phy/mdio-mux.c APIs were implemented but at this point all
> PHYs on muxed MDIO bus were ethernet PHYs).
>
> 3. Then, we saw SoC with ethernet switch devices also accessible over
> shared MDIO bus (or Muxed MDIO bus) along with ethernet PHYs (I guess
> this is why we have drivers/net/phy/mdio_device.c which adds
> "mdio_device" for non-ethernet-PHY devices on MDIO bus).
>
> 4. Now, we have SoC with SATA PHYs, PCIe PHYs, USB PHYs, and Ethernet
> PHYs all accessible over same shared MDIO bus (or Muxed MDIO bus). The
> SATA PHYs and PCIe PHYs are registered to "Generic PHY framework". For
> USB PHYs, we can either register to "Generic PHY framework" or "USB PHY
> framework". For Ethernet PHYs, we register MDIO bus instance to "Ethernet
> MDIO framework".

Thanks for the extra background information.

> The devices on ARM64 SoC has to be within first 4GB and RAM has to start
> from first 4GB to be ARM compliant because ARM64 CPUs have 32bit mode and
> all devices and RAM should be available to 32bit mode with MMU disabled.
> This means that we only have 4GB to fit all devices registers and some
> portion of RAM. Some of these non-Ethernet PHYs have tons of registers so
> as number of PHYs increase in a SoC they will eat-up lot of first 4GB
> address space. Using same MDIO bus for all types of PHYs (SATA, PCIe, USB,
> and Ethernet) is actually a good approach because it actually saves lot of
> first 4GB address space. In future, more devices will be moved to a shared
> MDIO bus which are less frequently accessed.

I think it remains to be seen if anyone other than Broadcom follows
this model. I have no idea if that's likely or not, perhaps everyone
does this, perhaps you are the only ones.

> For Broadcom iProc SoCs, the design choice has already been made to use
> shared MDIO bus for all PHYs. In fact, Broadcom iProc NS2 SoC already has
> a shared MDIO bus for SATA PHYs, USB PHYs, PCIe PHYs, and Ethernet
> PHYs and more Broadcom iProc SoCs are on their way. Of course, there are
> few exceptions in iProc SoCs such as SATA PHYs where we also have memory
> mapped registers to access PHYs but other PHYs don't have such memory
> mapped registers.
>
> Clearly from above, the traditional 2 wire MDIO bus is now a shared MDIO
> bus with 2-wire plus additional select lines. Also, now we have SoCs (such
> as Broadcom iProc SoCs) which has such shared MDIO bus and I think
> in-future we will have SoCs with a shared MDIO bus for variety of devices.
>
> For long term, we really need a clean solution to fit shared MDIO based
> PHY drivers in Linux kernel. Also, shared MDIO based PHY drivers should
> not be dependent on any particular IO subsystem (such as Linux Ethernet)
> because there are lot of use-cases where people want strip down kernel
> image by not-compiling IO subsystems which are not required.
>
> IMHO, we have several options in front of us:
> 1. Use some light-weight framework (such as shared_mdio.c implemented
> by this patchset) under drivers/bus

I think this has been sufficiently NAKed by everyone

> 2. Extend "Generic PHY framework" to allow something like shared MDIO
> bus (as-per Arnd's suggestion)
> 3. Move-out "MDIO-mux APIs" from drivers/net/phy to something like
> drivers/mdio-mux and make it independent of "Linux Ethernet subsystem".
> (... may be more options ...)

while these two really describe the same thing. I think as a first
step, we can reorganize the Kconfig structure to put ethernet PHY
and the MDIO bus as two separate submenus in drivers/phy/Kconfig,
and make the latter independent of CONFIG_NETDEVICES, see patch
below. With that, you should already be able to write a generic
phy driver that registers itself as an MDIO device driver.

We can also debate moving files from drivers/net/phy and
drivers/usb/phy into drivers/phy/{net,mdio,usb}/ as a follow-up,
but the file location is really not all that important here.

Arnd

diff --git a/drivers/net/Kconfig b/drivers/net/Kconfig
index befd67df08e1..c58b60e70ab2 100644
--- a/drivers/net/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/net/Kconfig
@@ -356,8 +356,6 @@ config NET_SB1000

If you don't have this card, of course say N.

-source "drivers/net/phy/Kconfig"
-
source "drivers/net/plip/Kconfig"

source "drivers/net/ppp/Kconfig"
diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/Kconfig b/drivers/net/ethernet/Kconfig
index 2ffd63463299..2e2491b344d9 100644
--- a/drivers/net/ethernet/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/Kconfig
@@ -11,9 +11,6 @@ menuconfig ETHERNET

if ETHERNET

-config MDIO
- tristate
-
config SUNGEM_PHY
tristate

diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/Kconfig b/drivers/net/phy/Kconfig
index 6dad9a9c356c..58447866fe64 100644
--- a/drivers/net/phy/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/net/phy/Kconfig
@@ -3,8 +3,9 @@
#

menuconfig PHYLIB
- tristate "PHY Device support and infrastructure"
+ tristate "Ethernet PHY Device support and infrastructure"
depends on NETDEVICES
+ select MDIO
help
Ethernet controllers are usually attached to PHY
devices. This option provides infrastructure for
@@ -164,6 +165,16 @@ config FIXED_PHY
PHYs that are not connected to the real MDIO bus.

Currently tested with mpc866ads and mpc8349e-mitx.
+endif # PHYLIB
+
+config MDIO
+ tristate
+ help
+ The MDIO bus is typically used ethernet PHYs, but can also be
+ used by other PHY drivers.
+
+menu "MDIO bus drivers"
+ depends on MDIO

config MDIO_BITBANG
tristate "Support for bitbanged MDIO buses"
@@ -271,7 +282,7 @@ config MDIO_BCM_IPROC
This module provides a driver for the MDIO busses found in the
Broadcom iProc SoC's.

-endif # PHYLIB
+endmenu # MDIO

config MICREL_KS8995MA
tristate "Micrel KS8995MA 5-ports 10/100 managed Ethernet switch"
diff --git a/drivers/phy/Kconfig b/drivers/phy/Kconfig
index ce29c17359e9..298893744a17 100644
--- a/drivers/phy/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/phy/Kconfig
@@ -2,7 +2,9 @@
# PHY
#

-menu "PHY Subsystem"
+menu "PHY drivers"
+
+menu "Generic PHY subsystem"

config GENERIC_PHY
bool "PHY Core"
@@ -425,3 +427,7 @@ config PHY_CYGNUS_PCIE
source "drivers/phy/tegra/Kconfig"

endmenu
+
+source "drivers/net/phy/Kconfig"
+
+endmenu

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