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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>
Cc: roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com, allan.nielsen@microchip.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP feature
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:01:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98230ad4-cf0a-b496-d4de-d3abf77d9741@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190826123811.GA13411@lunn.ch>

On 8/26/19 5:38 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:11:12AM +0200, Horatiu Vultur wrote:
>> When a network port is added to a bridge then the port is added in
>> promisc mode. Some HW that has bridge capabilities(can learn, forward,
>> flood etc the frames) they are disabling promisc mode in the network
>> driver when the port is added to the SW bridge.
>>
>> This patch adds the feature NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP so that the network ports
>> that have this feature will not be set in promisc mode when they are
>> added to a SW bridge.
>>
>> In this way the HW that has bridge capabilities don't need to send all the
>> traffic to the CPU and can also implement the promisc mode and toggle it
>> using the command 'ip link set dev swp promisc on'
> 
> Hi Horatiu
> 
> I'm still not convinced this is needed. The model is, the hardware is
> there to accelerate what Linux can do in software. Any peculiarities
> of the accelerator should be hidden in the driver.  If the accelerator
> can do its job without needing promisc mode, do that in the driver.
> 
> So you are trying to differentiate between promisc mode because the
> interface is a member of a bridge, and promisc mode because some
> application, like pcap, has asked for promisc mode.
> 
> dev->promiscuity is a counter. So what you can do it look at its
> value, and how the interface is being used. If the interface is not a
> member of a bridge, and the count > 0, enable promisc mode in the
> accelerator. If the interface is a member of a bridge, and the count >
> 1, enable promisc mode in the accelerator.

That is an excellent suggestion actually.

Horatiu, the other issue with your approach here is that the features
don't propagate to/from lower/upper/real devices, so if e.g.: you have a
VLAN interface enslaved as a part of the bridge, or a bond, or a tunnel
interface, the logic won't make us check NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP because those
virtual network devices won't inherit it from their real device. I am
not suggesting you fix this with your patch series, but rather, seek a
driver local solution.
-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-26 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26  8:11 [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP feature Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-26  8:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] net: Add NETIF_HW_BR_CAP feature Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-26  8:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] net: mscc: Use NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-26  8:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] net: mscc: Implement promisc mode Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-26 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NETIF_F_HW_BR_CAP feature Andrew Lunn
2019-08-26 17:01   ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2019-08-26 21:13   ` David Miller
2019-08-27 10:10   ` Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-27 13:18     ` Andrew Lunn
2019-08-27 14:55       ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-28 21:53       ` Horatiu Vultur

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