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From: Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>
To: Hangbin Liu <hangbin.liu@linux.dev>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Jay Vosburgh <jv@jvosburgh.net>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Jiale Yao <yaojiale02@163.com>,
	Aswin Karuvally <aswin@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: do not bond/team netdevices which use ml_priv
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:29:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cad8318-049c-4ba5-9e3e-fe1d843055f4@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoVzaHfKWG-_OJOY@fedora>



On 19.08.26 11:12, Hangbin Liu wrote:
>> The fact that the issues have been found by syzbot for CAN devices might be
>> through to the fact that the virtual CAN interface (vcan) can be created by
>> netlink commands and can be easily used in test setups.
>>
>> So what would happen, if the same tests with bonding/teaming/tunneling would
>> be done with real hardware drivers as the mentioned "direct ml_priv writers
>> still in tree at this revision:
>>
>>   drivers/s390/net/qeth_core_main.c:qeth_alloc_netdev()
>>       dev->ml_priv = card;
>>   drivers/net/ethernet/chelsio/cxgb/cxgb2.c:init_one()
>>       netdev->ml_priv = adapter;
>>   drivers/net/wan/hdlc_fr.c:fr_add_pvc()
>>       dev->ml_priv = pvc;
>>
>> plus drivers/net/ethernet/i825xx/82596.c, drivers/s390/net/ctcm_main.c,
>> the libertas main.c/mesh.c paths and
>> drivers/net/wireless/microchip/wilc1000/netdev.c."
>>
>> ??
> I'm not worry about cxgb2 or 82596, which are too old. But s390 qeth is
> still actively maintained (Cc the maintainers). Can we block them directly?


Thank you very much for the Cc I would have missed this otherwise.
While drivers/s390/net/qeth may be decades old, it is still the most used
network driver for the s390 architecture.

!!
qeth_l2 is an ethernet driver and bonding is heavily used by our customers.
So: No, please do NOT block bonding over qeth.

I see your discussion has moved on to other options, but I wanted to point that out.



qeth_l3 is a transport layer driver (arp offloaded), so I don't think bonding or teaming
can work at all there.
ctcm is not based on ethernet, so I don't think bonding or teaming can work there neither.
Aswin and I will put it on our ToDo list to find out what happens, if somebody tries.
Maybe we to add them to the blacklist you mention in a later reply?


> 
>> If bonding/teaming/tunneling might accidentally overwrite dev->ml_priv we
>> have to block all those devices. No matter if it is CAN or whatever ethernet
>> device.
> How would bonding modify dev->ml_priv?


Could you give more information about this?
I hope there is no issue for qeth_l2. There we use and rely on dev->ml_priv.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-20  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-15 15:39 [PATCH net] net: do not bond/team netdevices which use ml_priv Oliver Hartkopp
2026-08-15 16:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-15 17:23   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2026-08-18 10:12     ` Hangbin Liu
2026-08-18 13:25       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2026-08-19  9:12         ` Hangbin Liu
2026-08-19 18:15           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2026-08-20  3:23             ` Hangbin Liu
2026-08-20  8:29           ` Alexandra Winter [this message]
2026-08-20 11:06             ` Oliver Hartkopp

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