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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dave Täht" <d@taht.net>
Cc: "John W. Linville"
	<linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>,
	bloat-devel-JXvr2/1DY2fm6VMwtOF2vx4hnT+Y9+D1@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:01:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Cp7N4xqPyU6KWF6DOzFytxaA2BeoXhnhsZ6dp@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739n9ii7z.fsf-dm88P3lIUJl5IOjekqviT21/HaPePypd@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Dave Täht <d@taht.net> wrote:
> Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Dave Täht <d@taht.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, John W. Linville
>>>> <linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>> Announcement
>>>>>
>>>>> The bufferbloat project [1] is pleased to announce the availability
>>>>> of the debloat-testing Linux kernel git tree:
>>>>>
>>>>>   git://git.infradead.org/debloat-testing.git
>>>
>>> ----snip----
>
>>> Excellent. At moment I would recommend building "low latency preempt
>>> desktop" kernels with a high HZ value (400 or 1000), enabling highres
>>> timers, and compiling in SFB as a module. (I'd like the default for SFB
>>> to be "m" rather than "n", too)
>>>
>
>> These "debloat guys" are fast :-).  I was just preparing my
>> build-system (which I normally use to debianize linux-next kernels).
>> Any other recommendation for kernel-config options?  For example:
>> linux-next has already CONFIG_NET_SCH_CHOKE (but I have unset it).
>
> Enable CHOKe.
>
> The HZ value change is due to my worry that we've smashed latency so
> much in the driver/mac layer that it's interacting with the higher
> layers somewhat badly... So we need to add more hooks to the servo loops
> involved in order to have a normal HZ.
>
>> Which commits are in debloat-testing GIT but not in linux-next tree?
>
> The current list was in the release announcement. More on the way
> (mostly embedded drivers at this point) git pull early and often!
>
>> Are you planning debloat feature for 2.6.39?
>
> Depends on how many testers we get and what the results are.
>
> I feel the eBDP stuff will not be ready during this release cycle. SFB
> and CHOKe are in net-next, so, probably. Various driver patches -
> particularly those that increase the available dynamic range via
> ethtool, (e.g lowering the bottommost TX queue limit to, like, 4,
> especially for home gateways) may make it out if people look harder into
> the issue.
>
>>
>> - Sedat -
>
> --
> Dave Taht
> http://nex-6.taht.net
>

OK, thanks for the explanations.

Concerning "more drivers":
What would I have to do to modify ath5k?
I looked into the ath9k patch in debloat-testing GIT and it was to mod
some (TX/BUF) values only.
Not sure if ath9k is/was "well" prepared or only a good choice by the
testers/committers as they own such a device.

- Sedat -
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-27 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-25 22:22 ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree John W. Linville
     [not found] ` <20110225222210.GA3618-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-27 15:23   ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTingkcc-dvs_8Nr0vYXdXvuDHEn6sz14tnHzLp8W-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-27 15:31       ` Dave Täht
2011-02-27 15:38         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 15:56           ` Dave Täht
     [not found]             ` <8739n9ii7z.fsf-dm88P3lIUJl5IOjekqviT21/HaPePypd@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-27 16:01               ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTi=Cp7N4xqPyU6KWF6DOzFytxaA2BeoXhnhsZ6dp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-27 16:25                   ` Dave Täht
2011-03-03 18:16                     ` Rick Jones
2011-03-03 18:19                       ` John W. Linville
2011-03-03 19:45                       ` Tianji Li
2011-03-03 22:33                         ` Rick Jones
2011-03-08  6:58                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                           ` <20110308065819.GA1357-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-08 18:48                             ` Rick Jones
2011-03-13 10:27                               ` Pavel Machek

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