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From: Mahesh Bandewar <maheshb@google.com>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	laurent chavey <chavey@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Net-ethtool : Allow ethtool to set interface in loopback mode.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:22:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTik=YkC6w3d2ViOqH5AYcxfRB6eKx3Mk_6=aKXGH@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291144507.21077.56.camel@bwh-desktop>

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ben Hutchings
<bhutchings@solarflare.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 11:05 -0800, Mahesh Bandewar wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Ben Hutchings
>> <bhutchings@solarflare.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> > > diff --git a/include/linux/ethtool.h b/include/linux/ethtool.h
>> > > index 6628a50..7523d45 100644
>> > > --- a/include/linux/ethtool.h
>> > > +++ b/include/linux/ethtool.h
>> > > @@ -678,6 +678,8 @@ struct ethtool_ops {
>> > >                                   struct ethtool_rxfh_indir *);
>> > >         int     (*set_rxfh_indir)(struct net_device *,
>> > >                                   const struct ethtool_rxfh_indir *);
>> > > +       int     (*get_loopback)(struct net_device *, u32 *);
>> > > +       int     (*set_loopback)(struct net_device *, u32);
>> > >  };
>> > >  #endif /* __KERNEL__ */
>> > >
>> > > @@ -741,6 +743,8 @@ struct ethtool_ops {
>> > >  #define ETHTOOL_GSSET_INFO     0x00000037 /* Get string set info */
>> > >  #define ETHTOOL_GRXFHINDIR     0x00000038 /* Get RX flow hash indir'n table */
>> > >  #define ETHTOOL_SRXFHINDIR     0x00000039 /* Set RX flow hash indir'n table */
>> > > +#define ETHTOOL_SLOOPBACK      0x0000003a /* Enable / Disable Loopback */
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > Where should loopback be done, when enabled?  As near as possible to the
>> > host, so it only covers the DMA engines, or as far away as possible, so
>> > it covers most of the MAC/PHY hardware?
>> >
>> Putting it very close to the HW would stress the maximum soft path and
>> would make it
>> beneficial to more people / developers. I understand that capabilities
>> offered by different
>> NIC vendors vary so it's little difficult to draw the line as to where
>> it  should be done.
>
> Of course, that's why I suggest 'as near/far as possible' rather than
> trying to specify the exact point at which loopback would be enabled.
>
>> So
>> if the theme to "maximize the soft path" is maintained, we can leave
>> it to the individual
>> driver(s) to maximize the value in offering.
>
> I think this should be specified, otherwise measurements on different
> types of NIC will not be comparable.  The ethtool API suffers greatly
> from losse specification and resulting inconsistency between drivers.
> So please add the comment that loopback should be enabled as near to the
> host as possible.
>

This could be seen more as a stress test tool than a performance tool. Also
I think having this feature available for developers is more important than
the place it is done. But I see your point of having more
inconsistencies, so I will
add the comment as guidance for implementation.

--mahesh..

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-30  8:00 [PATCH] Net-ethtool : Allow ethtool to set interface in loopback mode Mahesh Bandewar
2010-11-30  9:48 ` Simon Horman
2010-11-30 15:01 ` Ben Hutchings
2010-11-30 19:05   ` Mahesh Bandewar
2010-11-30 19:15     ` Ben Hutchings
2010-11-30 21:22       ` Mahesh Bandewar [this message]
2010-11-30 23:57         ` [PATCH v2] " Mahesh Bandewar
2010-12-01 14:54           ` Ben Hutchings
2010-12-01 20:14             ` [PATCH v3] " Mahesh Bandewar
2010-12-01 20:17               ` Ben Hutchings
2010-12-10  4:11                 ` David Miller
2011-01-05  0:30               ` [PATCH v2] net: " Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-05  0:36                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-05  1:21                   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-05  1:29                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-05  1:34                       ` Rick Jones
2011-01-05  1:53                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-05  1:59                         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-05  2:06                         ` Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-05  1:39                       ` Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-05 16:22                     ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-06 22:13                       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-07  0:47                         ` Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-07  1:30                           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-12 19:24                         ` Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-22  0:23                 ` [PATCH v4] net-next-2.6: " Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-23  2:35                   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-01-23 17:12                     ` Mahesh Bandewar
2011-01-23 17:32                   ` Michał Mirosław

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