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From: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
To: Leandro Lucarella <luca@llucax.com.ar>
Cc: Jon Maloy <jon.maloy@ericsson.com>,
	davem@redhat.com,
	"tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.35/TIPC 2.0 ABI breaking changes [was: TIPC 2.0 and TIPC_SUB_SERVICE]
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:42:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimKbOreV4Fuyw3TbCrk9aa5yBZQSuRbo3Vdx=Q1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101018184628.GX8781@llucax.com.ar>

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Leandro Lucarella <luca@llucax.com.ar> wrote:
> Leandro Lucarella, el 18 de octubre a las 12:04 me escribiste:
>> This means D can't be used to write code that uses TIPC if you target
>> kernels >= 2.6.35 (unless they write their own bindings, or at least use
>> a custom TIPC_SUB_SERVICE constant). I could change the TIPC_SUB_SERVICE
>> value, but then people using older kernels will be screwed. Another
>> option is to use the version statement (kind of like C's #ifdef):
>>
>>       version (TIPC_2_0)
>>               const TIPC_SUB_SERVICE = 0x00;
>>       else
>>               const TIPC_SUB_SERVICE = 0x02;
>
> I keep finding problems with this change. Another, no D-related, problem
> with this change is old code could be silently (and very subtly) broken
> if they check for TIPC_SUB_SERVICE as a flag with something like:
>
>        if (s.filter & TIPC_SUB_SERVICE)
>                /* do something */
>
> Because TIPC_SUB_SERVICE has changed its semantics, not just its value,
> and the new value (0x00) will give you always 0 in that test. This one
> is really tricky, because the application code will fail silently, there
> will be no dmesg indication of a failure, nor the connection to the
> topology service be closed. You might get a compiler warning if you're
> lucky.

If you have access to the user space code in question, you can just
switch behaviour semantics based on the results of a uname call, knowing
that this change was included in versions since approx last Feb.  There
is also /proc/version which can be parsed manually if you prefer.

If you have kernel code/modules, you can do the same/similar things with
the KERNEL_VERSION and its support macros.

In either case, you don't have to restrict yourself to information that is
specific to and/or exported just from TIPC itself.

Hope that helps,
Paul.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-18 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-10-18 15:04                 ` Linux 2.6.35/TIPC 2.0 ABI breaking changes [was: TIPC 2.0 and TIPC_SUB_SERVICE] Leandro Lucarella
     [not found]                 ` <20101018150422.GV8781@llucax.com.ar>
2010-10-18 18:46                   ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-18 20:42                     ` Paul Gortmaker [this message]
2010-10-18 22:17                       ` Linux 2.6.35/TIPC 2.0 ABI breaking changes David Miller
2010-10-18 23:11                         ` Paul Gortmaker
2010-10-18 23:38                           ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-18 23:45                           ` Neil Horman
2010-10-19  2:16                             ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-19  8:16                               ` David Miller
2010-10-19 11:04                                 ` Neil Horman
2010-10-19 11:06                                   ` David Miller
2010-10-19 13:19                                   ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-19 13:28                                     ` Neil Horman
2010-10-19 20:18                                     ` Neil Horman
2010-10-19 20:43                                       ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-19 22:03                                         ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 17:20                                       ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 17:57                                         ` Jon Maloy
2010-10-20 18:04                                           ` Neil Horman
2010-10-20 18:10                                             ` Jon Maloy
2010-10-20 18:28                                               ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 19:23                                                 ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 22:59                                                   ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 18:24                                           ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 18:37                                             ` Jon Maloy
2010-10-20 18:44                                               ` Leandro Lucarella
2010-10-20 17:57                                         ` Neil Horman
2010-10-18 23:58                         ` Alan Cox

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