From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
codalist@telemann.coda.cs.cmu.edu,
ksummit-2010-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
autofs@linux.kernel.org, Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
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Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Petr Vandrovec <vandrove@vc.cvut.cz>,
Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Evgeniy Dushistov <dushistov@mail.ru>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Hendry <andrew.hendry@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [v2] Remaining BKL users, what to do
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:00:09 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTin2KPNNXvwcWphhM-5qexB14FS7M7ezkCCYCZ2H@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101018184346.GD27089@kroah.com>
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:42:06PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> Out of the remaining modules, I guess i810/i830, adfs, hpfs and ufs might end
>> up not getting fixed at all, we can either mark them non-SMP or move them
>> to drivers/staging once all the others are done.
>
> I recommend moving them to staging, and then retire them from there if
> no one steps up to maintain them.
I think this sets a bad precedent, these drivers work fine. Removing
BKL from them is hard, and involves finding and booting hw that
developers don't have much time/interest in at the moment. Anyone who
has access to the i810 hw and has time to work out the locking has
more important things to be doing with modern hw, however it doesn't
mean we should just drop support for old drivers because they don't
have active maintainers. Removing the BKL from the kernel is a great
goal, but breaking userspace ABI by removing drivers isn't.
Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-18 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-16 14:32 Remaining BKL users, what to do Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 18:32 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-17 18:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 15:04 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 21:26 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2010-09-17 10:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 14:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 15:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-16 20:08 ` David Miller
2010-09-16 16:09 ` Anders Larsen
2010-09-16 16:57 ` Samuel Ortiz
2010-09-16 20:08 ` David Miller
2010-09-20 1:25 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2010-10-18 15:42 ` [v2] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 16:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 17:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 18:43 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] " Greg KH
2010-10-18 23:00 ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2010-10-19 0:40 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 0:57 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 2:24 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 2:45 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 4:03 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 5:00 ` Theodore Kilgore
2010-10-19 4:52 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 7:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 12:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 13:54 ` Paul Mundt
2010-10-19 13:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:50 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-20 16:14 ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-10-19 18:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-10-19 19:37 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 19:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-10-19 20:29 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 20:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-10-19 20:41 ` Alan Cox
2010-10-19 20:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-20 4:43 ` Dave Young
2010-10-20 6:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-02 1:21 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-03 6:58 ` Pekka Enberg
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