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From: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>
To: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	kaber@trash.net, fubar@us.ibm.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	andy@greyhouse.net
Subject: Re: [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:20:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimQ6LAWbZMCjBhqA5By8jvxwnfjVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD8D2FE.4080204@gmail.com>

W dniu 22 maja 2011 11:10 użytkownik Nicolas de Pesloüan
<nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com> napisał:
> Le 22/05/2011 10:52, Michał Mirosław a écrit :
>>
>> 2011/5/22 Nicolas de Pesloüan<nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Le 22/05/2011 08:34, Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Jiri Pirko<jpirko@redhat.com>    writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Sun, May 22, 2011 at 04:59:49AM CEST, nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And because some setups may still require the skb not to be untagged,
>>>>>> may be we need the ability to re-tag the skb in some situations...
>>>>>> When a protocol handler or rx_handler is explicitly registered on a
>>>>>> net_device which expect to receive tagged skb, we should deliver
>>>>>> tagged skb to it... Arguably, this may sound incredible for the
>>>>>> general case, but may be required for not-so-special cases like
>>>>>> bridge or protocol analyzer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait, what setups/code require the skb not to be untagged? If there's
>>>>> such, it should be fixed.
>>>>
>>>> tcpdump on the non-vlan interface for one.
>>>
>>> bridge is another. More precisely, there is a difference between the
>>> following two setups:
>>>
>>> 1/ eth0 - eth0.100 - br0 - eth1.200 - eth1
>>>
>>> 2/ eth0 - br0 - eth1
>>>
>>> In case 1, it is normal and desirable for the bridge to see untagged skb.
>>>
>>> In case 2, it is desirable for the bridge to see untouched (possibly
>>> tagged)
>>> skb. If current bridge implementation is able to handle skb from which we
>>> removed a tag, in this situation, it means that bridge currently "fix
>>> improper untagging" by itself, by forcing re-tagging on output. I think
>>> is
>>> should not be the job of protocol handlers to fix this. Again, a generic
>>> feature should to it when necessary.
>>>
>>> Think of the following setups:
>>>
>>> 3/ eth0 - br0 - eth1.200 - eth1.
>>> 4/ eth0 - eth0.100 - br0 - eth1
>>>
>>> What if one expect this setup to add (3) or remove (4) one level of vlan
>>> nesting? This is precisely what this setup suggest. How can we instruct
>>> the
>>> bridge to do so? It is not the bridge responsibility to do any vlan
>>> processing. bridge is expected to... bridge !
>>
>> I assumed that this untaging Jiri is implementing does not remove the
>> tag. It moves the information from skb->data to skb->vlan_tci, but the
>> information contained is not otherwise changing. All your examples
>> should work regardless of where the tag is stored.
>
> I assumed (but didn't tested) that this untagging also change the starting
> point of the payload of the packet. So protocol handlers expecting to have
> the raw packet won't see the vlan header.

That would also be the case with hardware stripped tags - they need to
look into skb->vlan_tci anyway.

Best Regards,
Michał Mirosław

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-22  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-08  5:48 [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Jiri Pirko
2011-04-12 21:16 ` David Miller
2011-05-21  1:11   ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21  7:29     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-21 10:43       ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21 13:17         ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-21 17:54           ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-21 22:15             ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-22  2:59             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  6:29               ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  6:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22  8:34                   ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  8:52                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22  9:10                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22  9:20                         ` Michał Mirosław [this message]
2011-05-22  9:36                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  9:53                             ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 10:04                               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22 16:11                   ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-22 18:24                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:39                     ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:40                       ` [PATCH 2/3] vlan: Always strip the vlan header in vlan_untag Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:42                         ` [PATCH 3/3] vlan: Simplify the code now that VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR is always set Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-09 10:59                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-12  6:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 21:04                       ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Ben Greear
2011-05-22 22:38                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  0:38                           ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:26                             ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  1:45                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  2:14                                 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23  9:41                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 10:43                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-23 19:48                                       ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  5:58                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-24  7:19                                           ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23  1:39                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23  6:01                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23  9:00                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 16:33                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 19:36                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23 20:24                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 21:00                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 21:20                                       ` David Miller
2011-05-23 22:05                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:16                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 22:48                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:23                                           ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 23:02                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:20                                               ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  7:11                                                 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24  7:44                                                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-24 15:17                                                   ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  5:19                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:56                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 15:44                                             ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24  0:11                                         ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the b0rked ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  4:54                                           ` David Miller
2011-05-24  6:18                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24  6:24                                               ` David Miller
2011-05-24  7:38                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02  3:59                                                   ` David Miller
2011-06-02 13:03                                                     ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 13:15                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-02 14:54                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-02 15:26                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 23:18                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-06 14:48                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-03  3:34                                                       ` padmanabh ratnakar
2011-06-03  3:59                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-05 21:14                                                           ` David Miller
2011-06-10  8:35                                                             ` [PATCH v3] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:26                                                               ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10  9:34                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10  9:49                                                                   ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 10:35                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 11:20                                                                       ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 12:12                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 16:56                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-11  0:05                                                                           ` Changli Gao
2011-06-11 23:16                                                                             ` David Miller
2011-06-08 16:28                                                       ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Jiri Pirko
2011-06-08 23:08                                                         ` Changli Gao
2011-06-09  6:01                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-09 11:00                       ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22  8:38                 ` [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Changli Gao
2011-05-22  9:37                   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 10:17                     ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 10:26                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 10:40                         ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 13:16                       ` Jiri Pirko

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