From: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>
To: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>, Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
kaber@trash.net, fubar@us.ibm.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
andy@greyhouse.net
Subject: Re: [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:20:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimQ6LAWbZMCjBhqA5By8jvxwnfjVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD8D2FE.4080204@gmail.com>
W dniu 22 maja 2011 11:10 użytkownik Nicolas de Pesloüan
<nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com> napisał:
> Le 22/05/2011 10:52, Michał Mirosław a écrit :
>>
>> 2011/5/22 Nicolas de Pesloüan<nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Le 22/05/2011 08:34, Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Jiri Pirko<jpirko@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Sun, May 22, 2011 at 04:59:49AM CEST, nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And because some setups may still require the skb not to be untagged,
>>>>>> may be we need the ability to re-tag the skb in some situations...
>>>>>> When a protocol handler or rx_handler is explicitly registered on a
>>>>>> net_device which expect to receive tagged skb, we should deliver
>>>>>> tagged skb to it... Arguably, this may sound incredible for the
>>>>>> general case, but may be required for not-so-special cases like
>>>>>> bridge or protocol analyzer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait, what setups/code require the skb not to be untagged? If there's
>>>>> such, it should be fixed.
>>>>
>>>> tcpdump on the non-vlan interface for one.
>>>
>>> bridge is another. More precisely, there is a difference between the
>>> following two setups:
>>>
>>> 1/ eth0 - eth0.100 - br0 - eth1.200 - eth1
>>>
>>> 2/ eth0 - br0 - eth1
>>>
>>> In case 1, it is normal and desirable for the bridge to see untagged skb.
>>>
>>> In case 2, it is desirable for the bridge to see untouched (possibly
>>> tagged)
>>> skb. If current bridge implementation is able to handle skb from which we
>>> removed a tag, in this situation, it means that bridge currently "fix
>>> improper untagging" by itself, by forcing re-tagging on output. I think
>>> is
>>> should not be the job of protocol handlers to fix this. Again, a generic
>>> feature should to it when necessary.
>>>
>>> Think of the following setups:
>>>
>>> 3/ eth0 - br0 - eth1.200 - eth1.
>>> 4/ eth0 - eth0.100 - br0 - eth1
>>>
>>> What if one expect this setup to add (3) or remove (4) one level of vlan
>>> nesting? This is precisely what this setup suggest. How can we instruct
>>> the
>>> bridge to do so? It is not the bridge responsibility to do any vlan
>>> processing. bridge is expected to... bridge !
>>
>> I assumed that this untaging Jiri is implementing does not remove the
>> tag. It moves the information from skb->data to skb->vlan_tci, but the
>> information contained is not otherwise changing. All your examples
>> should work regardless of where the tag is stored.
>
> I assumed (but didn't tested) that this untagging also change the starting
> point of the payload of the packet. So protocol handlers expecting to have
> the raw packet won't see the vlan header.
That would also be the case with hardware stripped tags - they need to
look into skb->vlan_tci anyway.
Best Regards,
Michał Mirosław
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-22 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-08 5:48 [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Jiri Pirko
2011-04-12 21:16 ` David Miller
2011-05-21 1:11 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21 7:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-21 10:43 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-21 13:17 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-21 17:54 ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-21 22:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-22 2:59 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 6:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 6:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 8:34 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 8:52 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22 9:10 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 9:20 ` Michał Mirosław [this message]
2011-05-22 9:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 9:53 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-22 10:04 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-22 16:11 ` Jesse Gross
2011-05-22 18:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:39 ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] vlan: Always strip the vlan header in vlan_untag Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 19:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] vlan: Simplify the code now that VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR is always set Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-09 10:59 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-12 6:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 21:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Ben Greear
2011-05-22 22:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 0:38 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23 1:26 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23 1:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 2:14 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-23 9:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 10:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-23 19:48 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24 5:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-24 7:19 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23 1:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 6:01 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 9:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 16:33 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 19:36 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-23 20:24 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 21:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 21:20 ` David Miller
2011-05-23 22:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-23 22:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-23 22:23 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-23 23:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 4:20 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24 7:11 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-05-24 7:44 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-24 15:17 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24 5:19 ` David Miller
2011-05-24 7:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 15:44 ` Ben Greear
2011-05-24 0:11 ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the b0rked ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 4:54 ` David Miller
2011-05-24 6:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-24 6:24 ` David Miller
2011-05-24 7:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 3:59 ` David Miller
2011-06-02 13:03 ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 13:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-02 14:54 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-02 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-06-02 23:18 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-06 14:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-03 3:34 ` padmanabh ratnakar
2011-06-03 3:59 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-05 21:14 ` David Miller
2011-06-10 8:35 ` [PATCH v3] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 9:26 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 9:34 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 9:49 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 10:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 11:20 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-10 12:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-10 16:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-11 0:05 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-11 23:16 ` David Miller
2011-06-08 16:28 ` [PATCH] vlan: Fix the ingress VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR check v2 Jiri Pirko
2011-06-08 23:08 ` Changli Gao
2011-06-09 6:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-06-09 11:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] vlan: Do not support clearing VLAN_FLAG_REORDER_HDR Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 8:38 ` [patch net-next-2.6 v2] net: vlan: make non-hw-accel rx path similar to hw-accel Changli Gao
2011-05-22 9:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-05-22 10:17 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 10:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-05-22 10:40 ` Changli Gao
2011-05-22 13:16 ` Jiri Pirko
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