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From: tsuna <tsunanet@gmail.com>
To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
Cc: Alexander Zimmermann <alexander.zimmermann@comsys.rwth-aachen.de>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO as per draft RFC 2988bis-02.
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:40:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimSZEbnNVzi3UvBFndHp25S0ow7YQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef84de89c2597793d4cca5eee446ba90@localhost>

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net> wrote:
> So yes, it CAN be wise to choose other lower/upper bounds. But keep in
> mind that we should NOT artificial limit ourself. I can image data center
> scenarios where a initial RTO of <1 match perfectly.

Yes that's exactly the point I was trying to make when talking to
Alexander offline.  On today's Internet, RTTs are easily in the
hundreds of ms, and initRTO is 3s, so there's 2 orders of magnitude of
difference.  In my environment, if my RTT is ~2µs, an initRTO of 200ms
means that there's a gap of 6 orders of magnitude (!).  And yes,
although I don't work for High Frequency Trading companies in Wall
Street, I'm already buying switches full of line-rate 10Gb ports with
a port-to-port latency of 500ns for L2/L3 forwarding/switching.  I
expect this kind of network gear will quickly become prevalent in
datacenter/backend environments.

-- 
Benoit "tsuna" Sigoure
Software Engineer @ www.StumbleUpon.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17  7:40 [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  7:40 ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  8:01   ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-17  8:34     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  8:07   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 11:02     ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-17 12:20       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-18 10:43     ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-18 19:26       ` David Miller
2011-05-18 19:40         ` tsuna
2011-05-18 19:52           ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:20             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-18 20:23               ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:27                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 10:27               ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-20 11:00                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 12:37                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-21  0:06                   ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-31 14:48                     ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:25                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:28                         ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:43                           ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19  2:22             ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO as per draft RFC 2988bis-02 Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  2:36               ` David Miller
2011-05-19  3:56                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  4:14                   ` David Miller
2011-05-19  4:33                     ` tsuna
2011-05-19  5:46                       ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:36                         ` [PATCH] tcp: Lower the initial RTO to 1s " Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 17:42                           ` Yuchung Cheng
2011-05-19  6:47                         ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 20:16                           ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:10                       ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO " Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:25                         ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:36                           ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:42                             ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:52                               ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  7:07                                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  8:02                                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19 16:40                                   ` tsuna [this message]
2011-05-19 16:55                                     ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19 17:11                                       ` tsuna
2011-05-19 19:27                                         ` David Miller
2011-05-19 20:30                                           ` tsuna
2011-05-20  2:01           ` [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl H.K. Jerry Chu

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