From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jay Vosburgh <fubar@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC Patch] bonding: move to net/ directory
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:32:08 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTin2HaYjHgGACkwvKwuY-Y_e3+r3JQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110525152023.GC11867@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 08:43:21PM +0800, Américo Wang wrote:
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
>> > This all sounds like change for the sake of change to me. I don't see any
>> > compelling argument for moving bonding (or bridging or vlans, etc) around at
>> > all. All of these software drivers have feet in multple subsystems, but that
>> > just means that theres not going to be a compelling argument to move them any
>> > place, at least not without an immediate subsequent argument that it really
>> > belonged back where it was. Unless you can show a solid benefit to moving the
>> > code, I don't see why any reorganization is needed.
>>
>> Well, as a people who worked on bonding code, I have no problem to know
>> bonding code is under drivers/net/, but for people who don't know this, probably
>> net/ is the first place they want to search.
>>
> you've asked them?
>
> cd git/net-next-2.6
> find . -name '*bond*'
No, somone asked me why bonding is not in net/ and after some thinking,
I see no reasons myself (thus sent this patch).
>> The other similar thing is that pktgen is in net/core/ while netconsole is in
>> drivers/net/, which seems a little strange too.
>>
> Its is, and loopback is in /drivers/net, as is tun-tap and xen-netfront (none of
> which touch actual hardware), as is slip and ppp, which are net drivers, but
> only operate on non net hardware. ppoe is another example which operates on
> ethernet, but sits on top of a secondary physical device (and so has no real
> hardware itself). These could all arguably be moved to /net, because they have
> no real hardware, but are in drivers because they implement instances of the net
> driver interface.
>
>> vlan vs macvlan is the third example.
>>
> yes, it is, macvlan, like you assert could be moved, but you could just as
> easily move vlan to /drivers because it implements an instance of the net device
> driver interface.
Then I agree here.
>
> The bottom line is, sometimes things aren't black and white, they're gray. And
> we put code where it makes the most sense at the time. We move it when it
> makes sense to, but I don't hear any compelling argument to make that move.
> Yes, we're not always consistent with where we put hardwareless drivers, but to
> make a policy and shove everything to one place or another doesn't any more
> sense. If we do that we either wind up with things that we think of as drivers
> in the /net directory, or we wind up with stuff thats really protocol oriented
> in the /drivers directory. And if the major problem we solve by doing so is
> making life easier for someone who otherwise wouldn't be able to find said code
> with a quick grep or find operation, it really doesn't seem like its worthwhile
> to me
>
Well, the problem is our code organisation, if we could organize the code
in a better way that would help grepping the code.
>> In short, there are three callers of netdev_rx_handler_register(), macvlan,
>> bonding and bridge, only bridge code stays in net/ directory.
> Why is calling netdev_rx_handler_register a gating factor here?
>
I don't think other drivers are supposed to use this function to register
a packet handler, which is an important difference from my view.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-26 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-23 12:45 [RFC Patch] bonding: move to net/ directory Américo Wang
2011-05-23 15:13 ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-05-24 14:00 ` Américo Wang
2011-05-24 15:03 ` Andy Gospodarek
2011-05-25 12:32 ` Américo Wang
2011-05-25 15:01 ` Neil Horman
2011-05-26 9:11 ` Américo Wang
2011-05-26 13:38 ` Neil Horman
2011-05-24 16:33 ` Neil Horman
2011-05-25 12:43 ` Américo Wang
2011-05-25 15:20 ` Neil Horman
2011-05-26 9:32 ` Américo Wang [this message]
2011-05-26 13:50 ` Neil Horman
2011-05-26 14:25 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-06-06 16:34 ` Américo Wang
2011-06-06 16:50 ` Joe Perches
2011-06-06 17:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 17:20 ` Joe Perches
2011-06-06 17:31 ` Jeff Kirsher
2011-06-06 20:11 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-06-06 17:31 ` Jeff Kirsher
2011-06-18 2:48 ` WANG Cong
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