From: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>
To: Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:06:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinvQBnhT1sUgHWhR5_3QDBTrjbNcw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305675865.10756.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
W dniu 18 maja 2011 01:44 użytkownik Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com> napisał:
> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 00:58 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
>> W dniu 18 maja 2011 00:28 użytkownik Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
>> napisał:
>> > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:48 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
>> >> 2011/5/17 Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>:
>> >> > Looks like to use a new flag requires more time/work. I am
>> thinking
>> >> > whether we can just use HIGHDMA flag to enable zero-copy in
>> macvtap
>> >> to
>> >> > avoid the new flag for now since mavctap uses real NICs as lower
>> >> device?
>> >>
>> >> Is there any other restriction besides requiring driver to not
>> recycle
>> >> the skb? Are there any drivers that recycle TX skbs?
>> > Not more other restrictions, skb clone is OK. pskb_expand_head()
>> looks
>> > OK to me from code review.
>>
>> > Currently there is no drivers recycle TX skbs.
>>
>> So why do you require the target device to have some flags at all?
> We could use macvtap to check lower device HIGHDMA to enable zero-copy,
> but I am not sure whether it is sufficient. If it's sufficient then we
> don't need to use a new flag here. To be safe, it's better to use a new
> flag to enable each device who can pass zero-copy test.
>> Do I understand correctly, that this zero-copy feature is about
>> packets received from VMs?
> Yes, packets sent from VMs, and received in local host for TX zero-copy
> here.
What is the zero-copy test? On some arches the HIGHDMA is not needed
at all so might be not enabled on anything. It looks like the correct
test would be per-packet check of !illegal_highdma() or maybe
NETIF_F_SG as returned from harmonize_features(). For virtual devices
or other software forwarding this might lead to skb_linearize() in
some cases, but is it that bad?
Best Regards,
Michał Mirosław
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-18 9:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-16 19:28 [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 19:38 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:47 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 21:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16 23:32 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 6:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-17 20:53 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 21:48 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 22:28 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 22:58 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 23:44 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 9:06 ` Michał Mirosław [this message]
2011-05-18 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:10 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:40 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 14:38 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 15:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:07 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:45 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 17:00 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 19:42 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 23:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25 22:49 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 8:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26 15:27 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 19:11 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:02 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:47 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 12:48 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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