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From: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>
To: Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:06:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinvQBnhT1sUgHWhR5_3QDBTrjbNcw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305675865.10756.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>

W dniu 18 maja 2011 01:44 użytkownik Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com> napisał:
> On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 00:58 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
>> W dniu 18 maja 2011 00:28 użytkownik Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
>> napisał:
>> > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:48 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
>> >> 2011/5/17 Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>:
>> >> > Looks like to use a new flag requires more time/work. I am
>> thinking
>> >> > whether we can just use HIGHDMA flag to enable zero-copy in
>> macvtap
>> >> to
>> >> > avoid the new flag for now since mavctap uses real NICs as lower
>> >> device?
>> >>
>> >> Is there any other restriction besides requiring driver to not
>> recycle
>> >> the skb? Are there any drivers that recycle TX skbs?
>> > Not more other restrictions, skb clone is OK. pskb_expand_head()
>> looks
>> > OK to me from code review.
>>
>> > Currently there is no drivers recycle TX skbs.
>>
>> So why do you require the target device to have some flags at all?
> We could use macvtap to check lower device HIGHDMA to enable zero-copy,
> but I am not sure whether it is sufficient. If it's sufficient then we
> don't need to use a new flag here. To be safe, it's better to use a new
> flag to enable each device who can pass zero-copy test.

>> Do I understand correctly, that this zero-copy feature is about
>> packets received from VMs?
> Yes, packets sent from VMs, and received in local host for TX zero-copy
> here.

What is the zero-copy test? On some arches the HIGHDMA is not needed
at all so might be not enabled on anything. It looks like the correct
test would be per-packet check of !illegal_highdma() or maybe
NETIF_F_SG as returned from harmonize_features(). For virtual devices
or other software forwarding this might lead to skb_linearize() in
some cases, but is it that bad?

Best Regards,
Michał Mirosław

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 19:28 [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 19:38   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:47     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 21:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16 23:32         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17  6:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-17 20:53             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 21:48           ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 22:28             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 22:58               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 23:44                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18  9:06                   ` Michał Mirosław [this message]
2011-05-18 10:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:10                 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:40                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:47                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 14:38                       ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 15:47                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:07                           ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:45                               ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 17:00                                   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 19:42                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 23:41                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25 22:49                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26  8:49                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26 15:27                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 19:11                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:02                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:23                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:50                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:47                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:56                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 12:48                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 13:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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