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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] should VM_BUG_ON(cond) really evaluate cond
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:34:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFy9oJSK99K=brRzSfSnLocO=PuS7yuKkAcw3t5hATJrfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111028012521.GF25795@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
>
> Seems reasonable too. In fact we usually should have memory barriers
> for this anyways which obsolete the volatile.

No we shouldn't. Memory barriers are insanely expensive, and pointless
for atomics - that aren't ordered anyway.

You may mean compiler barriers.

That said, removing the volatile entirely might be a good idea, and
never mind any barriers at all. The ordering for atomics really isn't
well enough specified that we should care. So I wouldn't object to a
patch that just removes the volatile entirely, but it would have to be
accompanied with quite a bit of testing, in case some odd case ends up
depending on it. But nothing *should* be looping on those things
anyway.

                       Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-28  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-28  1:19 [RFC] should VM_BUG_ON(cond) really evaluate cond Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28  1:25 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-28  1:34   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2011-10-28  1:44     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-10-28  2:52       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28  3:29         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-10-28  4:43           ` >Re: " Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28 11:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-28 12:09               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28 12:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-28 12:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-28 14:47                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-28 14:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-29 15:43                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-29 17:34                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-30  8:52                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-30  9:59                             ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-30 15:16                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-30 17:07                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-30 17:41                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-30 17:48                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-30 17:59                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-30 18:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02  0:14                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-01  4:06                           ` Stephen Rothwell

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