From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 3/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hash feature
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:15:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEtRhJnnPJDASb8WwW=dO1HzL9aRo4YT9csWSxXCTsu_Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39c059c9-fe67-46e4-8c81-854a3de8d726@daynix.com>
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:55 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
>
> On 2025/03/12 11:59, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 2:17 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2025/03/11 9:38, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 3:45 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025/03/10 12:55, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:01 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hash reporting
> >>>>>> ==============
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Allow the guest to reuse the hash value to make receive steering
> >>>>>> consistent between the host and guest, and to save hash computation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> RSS
> >>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> RSS is a receive steering algorithm that can be negotiated to use with
> >>>>>> virtio_net. Conventionally the hash calculation was done by the VMM.
> >>>>>> However, computing the hash after the queue was chosen defeats the
> >>>>>> purpose of RSS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another approach is to use eBPF steering program. This approach has
> >>>>>> another downside: it cannot report the calculated hash due to the
> >>>>>> restrictive nature of eBPF steering program.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Introduce the code to perform RSS to the kernel in order to overcome
> >>>>>> thse challenges. An alternative solution is to extend the eBPF steering
> >>>>>> program so that it will be able to report to the userspace, but I didn't
> >>>>>> opt for it because extending the current mechanism of eBPF steering
> >>>>>> program as is because it relies on legacy context rewriting, and
> >>>>>> introducing kfunc-based eBPF will result in non-UAPI dependency while
> >>>>>> the other relevant virtualization APIs such as KVM and vhost_net are
> >>>>>> UAPIs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
> >>>>>> Tested-by: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> Documentation/networking/tuntap.rst | 7 ++
> >>>>>> drivers/net/Kconfig | 1 +
> >>>>>> drivers/net/tap.c | 68 ++++++++++++++-
> >>>>>> drivers/net/tun.c | 98 +++++++++++++++++-----
> >>>>>> drivers/net/tun_vnet.h | 159 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>>>>> include/linux/if_tap.h | 2 +
> >>>>>> include/linux/skbuff.h | 3 +
> >>>>>> include/uapi/linux/if_tun.h | 75 +++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>> net/core/skbuff.c | 4 +
> >>>>>> 9 files changed, 386 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>>>> Let's has a consistent name for this and the uapi to be consistent
> >>>>> with TUNSETIFF/TUNGETIFF. Probably TUNSETVNETHASH and
> >>>>> tun_vnet_ioctl_gethash().
> >>>>
> >>>> They have different semantics so they should have different names.
> >>>> TUNGETIFF reports the value currently set while TUNGETVNETHASHCAP
> >>>> reports the value that can be set later.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I will get here. I meant a symmetric name
> >>>
> >>> TUNSETVNETHASH and TUNVETVNETHASH.
> >>
> >> TUNGETVNETHASHCAP does not correspond to TUNGETIFF. The correspondence
> >> of ioctl names is as follows:
> >> TUNGETFEATURES - TUNGETVNETHASHCAP
> >
> > TUNGETFEATURES returns the value set from TUNSETIFF. This differs from
> > TUNGETVNETHASHCAP semantic which just return the capabilities.
> >
> > +static inline long tun_vnet_ioctl_gethashcap(void __user *argp)
> > +{
> > + static const struct tun_vnet_hash cap = {
> > + .flags = TUN_VNET_HASH_REPORT | TUN_VNET_HASH_RSS,
> > + .types = VIRTIO_NET_SUPPORTED_HASH_TYPES
> > + };
> > +
> > + return copy_to_user(argp, &cap, sizeof(cap)) ? -EFAULT : 0;
> > +}
> >
> > TUNGETFEATURES doesn't' help too much for non-persist TAP as userspace
> > knows what value it set before.
> >
> >> TUNSETIFF - TUNSETVNETHASH
> >> TUNGETIFF - no corresponding ioctl for the virtio-net hash features
> >
> > And this sounds odd and a hint for a incomplete uAPI as userspace
> > needs to know knowing what can set before doing TUNSETVNETHASH.
>
> You are confused with TUNGETFEATURES and TUNGETIFF. Below is the code
> that implements TUNGETFEATURES:
> if (cmd == TUNGETFEATURES) {
> /* Currently this just means: "what IFF flags are valid?".
> * This is needed because we never checked for invalid flags on
> * TUNSETIFF.
> */
> return put_user(IFF_TUN | IFF_TAP | IFF_NO_CARRIER |
> TUN_FEATURES, (unsigned int __user*)argp);
> } else if (cmd == TUNSETQUEUE) {
Right.
Thanks
>
> Regards,
> Akihiko Odaki
>
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Akihiko Odaki
> >>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-17 1:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-07 11:01 [PATCH net-next v9 0/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hashing feature Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 1/6] virtio_net: Add functions for hashing Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10 3:55 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 6:53 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11 0:47 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11 5:49 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17 1:24 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-17 6:08 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 2/6] net: flow_dissector: Export flow_keys_dissector_symmetric Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 3/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hash feature Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-08 19:32 ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-03-10 7:11 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10 3:55 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 4:01 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 8:16 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10 7:45 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11 0:38 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11 6:11 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12 2:35 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12 5:03 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17 1:12 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-17 7:06 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-18 0:15 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-18 10:10 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-19 0:58 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-19 5:28 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-20 1:31 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-20 5:33 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-21 1:13 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-21 5:56 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-24 4:40 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-29 9:15 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11 6:17 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12 5:55 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17 1:15 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2025-03-10 7:58 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11 0:40 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 8:13 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 4/6] selftest: tun: Test vnet ioctls without device Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 5/6] selftest: tun: Add tests for virtio-net hashing Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-08 19:39 ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-03-10 4:03 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11 6:19 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 6/6] vhost/net: Support VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10 4:43 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 7:04 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11 0:42 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11 6:24 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12 3:36 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12 5:59 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17 1:15 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-19 4:43 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-13 1:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 0/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hashing feature Lei Yang
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