From: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
pabeni@redhat.com, jiri@resnulli.us, sdf@google.com,
nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/15] tools: ynl: stop using libmnl
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:26:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD4GDZzF55bkoZ_o0S784PmfW4+L_QrG2ofWg6CeQk4FCWTUiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240222235614.180876-1-kuba@kernel.org>
On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 at 23:56, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> There is no strong reason to stop using libmnl in ynl but there
> are a few small ones which add up.
>
> First, we do much more advanced netlink level parsing than libmnl
> in ynl so it's hard to say that libmnl abstracts much from us.
> The fact that this series, removing the libmnl dependency, only
> adds <300 LoC shows that code savings aren't huge.
> OTOH when new types are added (e.g. auto-int) we need to add
> compatibility to deal with older version of libmnl (in fact,
> even tho patches have been sent months ago, auto-ints are still
> not supported in libmnl.git).
>
> Second, the dependency makes ynl less self contained, and harder
> to vendor in. Whether vendoring libraries into projects is a good
> idea is a separate discussion, nonetheless, people want to do it.
>
> Third, there are small annoyances with the libmnl APIs which
> are hard to fix in backward-compatible ways.
>
> All in all, libmnl is a great library, but with all the code
> generation and structured parsing, ynl is better served by going
> its own way.
Is the absence of buffer bounds checking intentional, i.e. relying on libasan?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-23 16:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-22 23:55 [PATCH net-next 00/15] tools: ynl: stop using libmnl Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] tools: ynl: give up on libmnl for auto-ints Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 13:51 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-23 14:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:07 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-23 15:34 ` Donald Hunter
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] tools: ynl: create local attribute helpers Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 14:03 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-23 14:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:09 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] tools: ynl: create local for_each helpers Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:16 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] tools: ynl: create local nlmsg access helpers Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:20 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] tools: ynl: create local ARRAY_SIZE() helper Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:21 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] tools: ynl: make yarg the first member of struct ynl_dump_state Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:23 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] tools: ynl-gen: remove unused parse code Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:24 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] tools: ynl: wrap recv() + mnl_cb_run2() into a single helper Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:33 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] tools: ynl: use ynl_sock_read_msgs() for ACK handling Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:35 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] tools: ynl: stop using mnl_cb_run2() Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 15:50 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] tools: ynl: switch away from mnl_cb_t Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 16:04 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] tools: ynl: switch away from MNL_CB_* Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 16:05 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] tools: ynl: stop using mnl socket helpers Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 16:14 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] tools: ynl: remove the libmnl dependency Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 16:14 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-22 23:56 ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] tools: ynl: use MSG_DONTWAIT for getting notifications Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 16:17 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2024-02-23 16:26 ` Donald Hunter [this message]
2024-02-23 16:34 ` [PATCH net-next 00/15] tools: ynl: stop using libmnl Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-26 9:04 ` Donald Hunter
2024-02-26 18:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-27 10:49 ` Donald Hunter
2024-02-27 15:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-27 16:29 ` Donald Hunter
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