From: Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@openai.com>
To: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
mptcp@lists.linux.dev, Mat Martineau <martineau@kernel.org>,
Geliang Tang <geliang@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Gang Yan <yangang@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] mptcp: misc. features for v6.18
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 15:21:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADg4-L-5f3a=3XCv5UaZG+47DHaO3NTk5+4mp-nWJ2rFXx-5WQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <739c86b1-5cf5-4525-919f-1ca13683b77f@kernel.org>
On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 2:38 PM Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> 2 Sept 2025 23:18:56 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 08:50:19PM +0200, Matthieu Baerts wrote:
> >> Hi Catalin,
> >>
> >> 2 Sept 2025 20:25:19 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 08:27:59AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 16:51:47 +0200 Matthieu Baerts wrote:
> >>>>> It is unclear why a second scan is needed and only the second one caught
> >>>>> something. Was it the same with the strange issues you mentioned in
> >>>>> driver tests? Do you think I should re-add the second scan + cat?
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure, cc: Catalin, from experience it seems like second scan often
> >>>> surfaces issues the first scan missed.
> >>>
> >>> It's some of the kmemleak heuristics to reduce false positives. It does
> >>> a checksum of the object during scanning and only reports a leak if the
> >>> checksum is the same in two consecutive scans.
> >>
> >> Thank you for the explanation!
> >>
> >> Does that mean a scan should be triggered at the end of the tests,
> >> then wait 5 second for the grace period, then trigger another scan
> >> and check the results?
> >>
> >> Or wait 5 seconds, then trigger two consecutive scans?
> >
> > The 5 seconds is the minimum age of an object before it gets reported as
> > a leak. It's not related to the scanning process. So you could do two
> > scans in succession and wait 5 seconds before checking for leaks.
> >
> > However, I'd go with the first option - do a scan, wait 5 seconds and do
> > another. That's mostly because at the end of the scan kmemleak prints if
> > it found new unreferenced objects. It might not print the message if a
> > leaked object is younger than 5 seconds. In practice, though, the scan
> > may take longer, depending on how loaded your system is.
> >
> > The second option works as well but waiting between them has a better
> > chance of removing false positives if, say, some objects are moved
> > between lists and two consecutive scans do not detect the list_head
> > change (and update the object's checksum).
>
> Thank you for this very nice reply, that's very clear!
>
> I will then adapt our CI having CONFIG_DEBUG_KMEMLEAK_DEFAULT_OFF
> to do a manual scan at the very end, wait 5 seconds and do another.
FWIW - I am able to pretty reliably reproduce the kmemleak. However, I
also tried adding an inline kmemleak scan to the test harness (did it
once with, once without a sleep). When I do that the kmemleak
disappears :-)
(not saying that adding the scan isn't useful, just pointing out that
this particular leak seems to be related to how quickly we iterate
over the testcases)
Christoph
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-01 9:39 [PATCH net-next 0/6] mptcp: misc. features for v6.18 Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] mptcp: use HMAC-SHA256 library instead of open-coded HMAC Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] mptcp: make ADD_ADDR retransmission timeout adaptive Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] selftests: mptcp: remove add_addr_timeout settings Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] selftests: mptcp: add checks for fallback counters Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] net: Add rfs_needed() helper Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-01 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] mptcp: record subflows in RPS table Matthieu Baerts (NGI0)
2025-09-02 14:26 ` [PATCH net-next 0/6] mptcp: misc. features for v6.18 Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-02 14:51 ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-09-02 15:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-02 18:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 18:50 ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-09-02 21:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 21:38 ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-09-02 22:21 ` Christoph Paasch [this message]
2025-09-02 14:29 ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-09-02 19:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-02 19:25 ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-09-02 20:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
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