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From: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 07/15] quic: add connection id management
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 12:15:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADvbK_dwH2WXWZFym5R2wbjBW0qkoLyxip+uRT751ELGqk0rog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fd0f513-df05-43f4-b1dc-0fdb74e78378@akamai.com>

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 1:11 PM Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Xin,
>
> On 8/18/25 10:04 AM, Xin Long wrote:
> > !-------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >    This Message Is From an External Sender
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> > |-------------------------------------------------------------------!
> >
> > This patch introduces 'struct quic_conn_id_set' for managing Connection
> > IDs (CIDs), which are represented by 'struct quic_source_conn_id'
> > and 'struct quic_dest_conn_id'.
> >
> > It provides helpers to add and remove CIDs from the set, and handles
> > insertion of source CIDs into the global connection ID hash table
> > when necessary.
> >
> > - quic_conn_id_add(): Add a new Connection ID to the set, and inserts
> >    it to conn_id hash table if it is a source conn_id.
> >
> > - quic_conn_id_remove(): Remove connection IDs the set with sequence
> >    numbers less than or equal to a number.
> >
> > It also adds utilities to look up CIDs by value or sequence number,
> > search the global hash table for incoming packets, and check for
> > stateless reset tokens among destination CIDs. These functions are
> > essential for RX path connection lookup and stateless reset processing.
> >
> > - quic_conn_id_find(): Find a Connection ID in the set by seq number.
> >
> > - quic_conn_id_lookup(): Lookup a Connection ID from global hash table
> >    using the ID value, typically used for socket lookup on the RX path.
> >
> > - quic_conn_id_token_exists(): Check if a stateless reset token exists
> >    in any dest Connection ID (used during stateless reset processing).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>
> > ---
>
> Thanks Xin for all your work on this!
>
> For QUIC-LB, where the server endpoint may want to choose a specific
> source CID to enable 'stateless' routing, I don't currently see an API
> to allow that? It appears source CIDs are created with random values and
> while userspace can get/set the indexes of the current ones in use, I
> don't see a way to set specific CID values?
>
> For reference here is a proposal around it -
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers/
>
> In the reference above, the source CID is encrypted to help protect
> traceability if the connection migrates. Thus, if the kernel were to
> support such a feature, I don't think it wants to enforce a specific
> encoding scheme, but perhaps it might want to be a privileged operation,
> perhaps requiring CAP_NET_ADMIN to set specific source CIDs.
>
Hi, Jason,

We currently support only the finalized QUIC RFCs. Drafts like
'Load Balancers' and 'Multipath' aren’t covered yet. I think
we will plan the APIs after they are standardized.

Thanks for pointing out this RFC.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-23 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18 14:04 [PATCH net-next v2 00/15] net: introduce QUIC infrastructure and core subcomponents Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/15] net: define IPPROTO_QUIC and SOL_QUIC constants Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:31   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-08-18 16:20     ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-08-18 18:37       ` Xin Long
2025-08-19  8:10     ` Namjae Jeon
2025-08-21  8:24       ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/15] net: build socket infrastructure for QUIC protocol Xin Long
2025-08-21 11:17   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 18:38     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/15] quic: provide common utilities and data structures Xin Long
2025-08-21 12:58   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 18:15     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/15] quic: provide family ops for address and protocol Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:17   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 17:22     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/15] quic: provide quic.h header files for kernel and userspace Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/15] quic: add stream management Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:43   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 17:14     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/15] quic: add connection id management Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:55   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 15:57     ` Xin Long
2025-08-22 17:10   ` Jason Baron
2025-08-23 16:15     ` Xin Long [this message]
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/15] quic: add path management Xin Long
2025-08-21 14:18   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 15:40     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/15] quic: add congestion control Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/15] quic: add packet number space Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/15] quic: add crypto key derivation and installation Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/15] quic: add crypto packet encryption and decryption Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/15] quic: add timer management Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/15] quic: add frame encoder and decoder base Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 15/15] quic: add packet builder and parser base Xin Long
2025-08-23 15:20 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/15] net: introduce QUIC infrastructure and core subcomponents John Ericson
2025-08-24 17:57   ` Xin Long
2025-08-26 21:48     ` Xin Long

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