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From: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: tcpdump and Big TCP
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 13:19:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADvbK_fR62L+EwjW739MbCXJRFDfW5UTQ1bRrjMhc+cgyGN-dA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iKEs8_zdEXWbjxd8mC220MqhcRQp3AeHJMS6eD-a45rRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:25 PM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:20 PM David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Eric:
> >
> > Looking at the tcpdump source code, it has a GUESS_TSO define that can
> > be enabled to dump IPv4 packets with tot_len = 0:
> >
> >         if (len < hlen) {
> > #ifdef GUESS_TSO
> >             if (len) {
> >                 ND_PRINT("bad-len %u", len);
> >                 return;
> >             }
> >             else {
> >                 /* we guess that it is a TSO send */
> >                 len = length;
> >             }
> > #else
> >             ND_PRINT("bad-len %u", len);
> >             return;
> > #endif /* GUESS_TSO */
> >         }
> >
> >
> > The IPv6 version has a similar check but no compile change needed:
> >         /*
> >          * RFC 1883 says:
> >          *
> >          * The Payload Length field in the IPv6 header must be set to zero
> >          * in every packet that carries the Jumbo Payload option.  If a
> >          * packet is received with a valid Jumbo Payload option present and
> >          * a non-zero IPv6 Payload Length field, an ICMP Parameter Problem
> >          * message, Code 0, should be sent to the packet's source, pointing
> >          * to the Option Type field of the Jumbo Payload option.
> >          *
> >          * Later versions of the IPv6 spec don't discuss the Jumbo Payload
> >          * option.
> >          *
> >          * If the payload length is 0, we temporarily just set the total
> >          * length to the remaining data in the packet (which, for Ethernet,
> >          * could include frame padding, but if it's a Jumbo Payload frame,
> >          * it shouldn't even be sendable over Ethernet, so we don't worry
> >          * about that), so we can process the extension headers in order
> >          * to *find* a Jumbo Payload hop-by-hop option and, when we've
> >          * processed all the extension headers, check whether we found
> >          * a Jumbo Payload option, and fail if we haven't.
> >          */
> >         if (payload_len != 0) {
> >                 len = payload_len + sizeof(struct ip6_hdr);
> >                 if (length < len)
> >                         ND_PRINT("truncated-ip6 - %u bytes missing!",
> >                                 len - length);
> >         } else
> >                 len = length + sizeof(struct ip6_hdr);
> >
> >
> > Maybe I am missing something, but it appears that no code change to
> > tcpdump is needed for Linux Big TCP packets other than enabling that
> > macro when building. I did that in a local build and the large packets
> > were dumped just fine.
> >
Right, wireshark/tshark currently has no problem parsing BIG TCP IPv4 packets.
I think it enables GUESS_TSO by default.

We also enabled GUESS_TSO in tcpdump for RHEL-9 when BIG TCP IPv4 was
backported in it.

>
> My point is that tcpdump should not guess, but look at TP_STATUS_GSO_TCP
> (and TP_STATUS_CSUM_VALID would also be nice)
>
> Otherwise, why add TP_STATUS_GSO_TCP in the first place ?
That's for more reliable parsing in the future.

As currently in libpcap, it doesn't save meta_data(like
TP_STATUS_CSUM_VALID/GSO_TCP)
to 'pcap' files, and it requires libpcap APIs change and uses the
'pcap-ng' file format.
I think it will take quite some time to implement in userspace.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-02 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-02 16:20 tcpdump and Big TCP David Ahern
2023-10-02 16:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-10-02 17:19   ` Xin Long [this message]
2023-10-02 17:26     ` Eric Dumazet
2023-10-02 18:59       ` Xin Long
2023-11-10 14:50         ` Xin Long

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