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From: Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>
To: "Rose, Gregory V" <gregory.v.rose@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gospo@redhat.com" <gospo@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 02/10] ixgbevf: Fix broken trunk vlan
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:49:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEP_g=_DXCPHhWDptJ+WW-gxDCLM6pZtdaTnvFaxZ-NB3GULDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F901BD926A4E43B106BF17856F0755019C5E5E44@orsmsx508.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rose, Gregory V
<gregory.v.rose@intel.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jesse Gross [mailto:jesse@nicira.com]
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:54 PM
>> To: Rose, Gregory V
>> Cc: Kirsher, Jeffrey T; davem@davemloft.net; netdev@vger.kernel.org;
>> gospo@redhat.com; Jiri Pirko
>> Subject: Re: [net-next 02/10] ixgbevf: Fix broken trunk vlan
>>
>>
>> OK, maybe due to hardware limitations what I'm looking for just really
>> isn't possible.
>
> From what I can tell that is the case.
>
>>  However, what I'm trying to emphasize is that vconfig
>> is not the only way that vlans can be consumed by the network stack
>> and active_vlans is just an indication of whether a vlan filter was
>> set, nothing more (perhaps I should have picked a better name when I
>> originally designed this stuff).
>
> Understood.  The VF is incapable of receiving VLAN traffic unless a filter has been set.  It doesn't do promiscuous mode and any path that doesn't actually end up setting a VLAN filter won't receive any VLAN traffic.
>
>>  In particular, it is not intended to
>> determine whether a tag should be stripped off or not because
>> non-vconfig users don't necessarily know which vlans they care about
>> (think tcpdump or trunking over a bridge).  A major goal of the
>> existing vlan infrastructure is to avoid having drivers make
>> assumptions about the consumer of the tag and instead just hand all
>> information over to the network stack so it can behave in a consistent
>> manner.  That's why I was looking for alternate ways to get this
>> information without depending on active_vlans as this driver behaves
>> quite a bit differently from others, include the ixgbe PF driver.
>
> There are only two paths for the ixgbevf driver to receive VLAN traffic.  Either a VLAN filter has been set, which will result in a bit tag in active_vlans being set or the system administrator in the host VMM has put the VF device in trunk VLAN mode using the 'ip link set <dev> vf <n> <vlanid>' path.  There is no other way for it to receive VLAN traffic, so I think we're fine.  And keep in mind, once the system admin has put the VF device in trunk vlan mode, the VF is no longer allowed, as a policy implemented in the PF driver, to set any other VLAN filters.  Even if it did, it wouldn't work due to the operational characteristics of the VF device HW.
>
> The methods by which the ixgbe driver, as a fully featured Physical Function device, are quite a bit more varied.  I believe you're thinking of the VF device as a typical Ethernet device and that is just not the case.

Yes, I think you're right.  Thanks for the explanation.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-27 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-24  9:17 [net-next 00/10][pull request] Intel Wired LAN Drivers Update Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 01/10] e1000: don't enable dma receives until after dma address has been setup Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 02/10] ixgbevf: Fix broken trunk vlan Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24 16:33   ` Jesse Gross
2011-09-25  5:47     ` Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-26 15:57     ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-26 23:08       ` Jesse Gross
2011-09-26 23:24         ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-27  0:54           ` Jesse Gross
2011-09-27 16:39             ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-27 16:49               ` Jesse Gross [this message]
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 03/10] ixgbe: Cleanup q_vector interrupt throttle rate logic Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 04/10] ixgbe: disable LLI for FCoE Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 05/10] if_link: Add additional parameter to IFLA_VF_INFO for spoof checking Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24 16:40   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-09-25  5:54     ` Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-26 16:06     ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-25 17:22   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-25 20:06     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-09-26 16:14       ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-26 16:32         ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-26 16:37           ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-26 16:18     ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-26 16:21       ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-26 16:57         ` Rose, Gregory V
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 06/10] ixgbe: Add new netdev op to turn spoof checking on or off per VF Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 07/10] ixgbe: update {P}FC thresholds to account for X540 and loopback Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 08/10] ixgbe add thermal sensor support for x540 hardware Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 09/10] ixgbe: cleanup ixgbe_setup_gpie() for X540 Jeff Kirsher
2011-09-24  9:17 ` [net-next 10/10] ixgbe: add ECC warning for legacy interrupts Jeff Kirsher

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