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From: "Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)" <maheshb@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jian Yang <jianyang.kernel@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jian Yang <jianyang@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net-loopback: allow lo dev initial state to be controlled
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:02:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF2d9jgYgUa4DPVT8CSsbMs9HFjE5fn_U8-P=JuZeOecfiYt-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201114101709.42ee19e0@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:17 AM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:43:08 -0800 Jian Yang wrote:
> > From: Mahesh Bandewar <maheshb@google.com>
> >
> > Traditionally loopback devices comes up with initial state as DOWN for
> > any new network-namespace. This would mean that anyone needing this
> > device (which is mostly true except sandboxes where networking in not
> > needed at all), would have to bring this UP by issuing something like
> > 'ip link set lo up' which can be avoided if the initial state can be set
> > as UP. Also ICMP error propagation needs loopback to be UP.
> >
> > The default value for this sysctl is set to ZERO which will preserve the
> > backward compatible behavior for the root-netns while changing the
> > sysctl will only alter the behavior of the newer network namespaces.
>
> Any reason why the new sysctl itself is not per netns?
>
Making it per netns would not be very useful since its effect is only
during netns creation.

> > +netdev_loopback_state
> > +---------------------
>
> loopback_init_state ?
>
That's fine, thanks for the suggestion.

> > +Controls the loopback device initial state for any new network namespaces. By
> > +default, we keep the initial state as DOWN.
> > +
> > +If set to 1, the loopback device will be brought UP during namespace creation.
> > +This will only apply to all new network namespaces.
> > +
> > +Default : 0  (for compatibility reasons)
> > +
> >  netdev_max_backlog
> >  ------------------
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/net/loopback.c b/drivers/net/loopback.c
> > index a1c77cc00416..76dc92ac65a2 100644
> > --- a/drivers/net/loopback.c
> > +++ b/drivers/net/loopback.c
> > @@ -219,6 +219,13 @@ static __net_init int loopback_net_init(struct net *net)
> >
> >       BUG_ON(dev->ifindex != LOOPBACK_IFINDEX);
> >       net->loopback_dev = dev;
> > +
> > +     if (sysctl_netdev_loopback_state) {
> > +             /* Bring loopback device UP */
> > +             rtnl_lock();
> > +             dev_open(dev, NULL);
> > +             rtnl_unlock();
> > +     }
>
> The only concern I have here is that it breaks notification ordering.
> Is there precedent for NETDEV_UP to be generated before all pernet ops
> ->init was called?
I'm not sure if any and didn't see any issues in our usage / tests.
I'm not even sure anyone is watching/monitoring for lo status as such.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 20:43 [PATCH net-next] net-loopback: allow lo dev initial state to be controlled Jian Yang
2020-11-12 16:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-11-12 19:54   ` Dan Williams
2020-11-14 18:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 20:02   ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार) [this message]
2020-11-16 20:17     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 20:50       ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-16 21:20         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 21:42           ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-16 20:34     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-16 21:03       ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-17 17:18         ` Ido Schimmel
2020-11-17 20:53           ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-18  1:12             ` David Ahern
2020-11-18 16:58               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2020-11-18 17:39                 ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-18 18:04                   ` David Ahern
2020-11-18 19:54                     ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-19  8:03                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2020-11-20  3:55                     ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-20  4:56                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-01 20:24                         ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-12-02  2:38                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-02 20:53                             ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2020-11-17  4:50 ` kernel test robot

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