From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
finn@kloenk.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
tmgross@umich.edu, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
benno.lossin@proton.me, a.hindborg@samsung.com,
anna-maria@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, arnd@arndb.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] rust: time: Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd for Ktime
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:59:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLghaLTMFS18cdjY6ntQ8BE85APjG71F1MvEEhxG667HU4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f31d6f3e-e53c-4ced-920a-976ac44235e9@lunn.ch>
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 3:16 PM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 10:41:23AM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 7:37 AM FUJITA Tomonori
> > <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 12:28:59 +0200
> > > Fiona Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd trait for Ktime by using C's
> > > >> ktime_compare function so two Ktime instances can be compared to
> > > >> determine whether a timeout is met or not.
> > > >
> > > > Why is this only PartialEq/PartialOrd? Could we either document why or implement Eq/Ord as well?
> > >
> > > Because what we need to do is comparing two Ktime instances so we
> > > don't need them?
> >
> > When you implement PartialEq without Eq, you are telling the reader
> > that this is a weird type such as floats where there exists values
> > that are not equal to themselves. That's not the case here, so don't
> > confuse the reader by leaving out `Eq`.
>
> This might be one of those areas where there needs to be a difference
> between C and Rust in terms of kernel rules. For C, there would need
> to be a user. Here you seem to be saying the type system needs it, for
> the type to be meaningful, even if there is no user?
>
> Without Eq, would the compiler complain on an == operation, saying it
> is not a valid operation? Is there a clear difference between nobody
> has implemented this yet, vs such an operation is impossible, such as
> your float example?
Think of it this way: I wrote an implementation of something that
works in situations A and B, but I only use it in situation A. Must I
write my program in a way to make it impossible to use it in situation
B? That's how I see this case. Implementing Eq does not involve adding
any new functions.
Alice
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-07 13:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-05 12:25 [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] rust: Add IO polling FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] rust: time: Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd for Ktime FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-06 10:28 ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07 5:37 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 8:28 ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07 8:41 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07 9:29 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 13:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 13:59 ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/6] rust: time: Introduce Delta type FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 18:16 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-07 6:01 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 13:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 14:00 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-12 18:56 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-13 0:48 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-15 12:12 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 21:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/6] rust: time: Implement addition of Ktime and Delta FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-06 10:45 ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07 6:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:36 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-07 6:17 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 14:24 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-09 12:50 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/6] rust: time: add wrapper for fsleep function FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 12:24 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-09 13:28 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/6] rust: Add read_poll_timeout function FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:32 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 22:22 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-06 14:45 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 6:24 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 12:28 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 13:48 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 14:06 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07 14:13 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07 14:19 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:38 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 17:13 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 23:12 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 12:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 12:48 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 13:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-08 17:16 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 21:53 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 21:57 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 22:26 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 22:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15 3:36 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/6] net: phy: qt2025: wait until PHY becomes ready FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-12 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] rust: Add IO polling Boqun Feng
2024-10-13 1:15 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13 2:50 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13 3:16 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-13 5:15 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13 9:48 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-14 21:18 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15 3:16 ` FUJITA Tomonori
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