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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	finn@kloenk.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	tmgross@umich.edu,  ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
	gary@garyguo.net,  bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	benno.lossin@proton.me, a.hindborg@samsung.com,
	 anna-maria@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de,  arnd@arndb.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] rust: time: Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd for Ktime
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:59:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLghaLTMFS18cdjY6ntQ8BE85APjG71F1MvEEhxG667HU4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f31d6f3e-e53c-4ced-920a-976ac44235e9@lunn.ch>

On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 3:16 PM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2024 at 10:41:23AM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 7:37 AM FUJITA Tomonori
> > <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 12:28:59 +0200
> > > Fiona Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd trait for Ktime by using C's
> > > >> ktime_compare function so two Ktime instances can be compared to
> > > >> determine whether a timeout is met or not.
> > > >
> > > > Why is this only PartialEq/PartialOrd? Could we either document why or implement Eq/Ord as well?
> > >
> > > Because what we need to do is comparing two Ktime instances so we
> > > don't need them?
> >
> > When you implement PartialEq without Eq, you are telling the reader
> > that this is a weird type such as floats where there exists values
> > that are not equal to themselves. That's not the case here, so don't
> > confuse the reader by leaving out `Eq`.
>
> This might be one of those areas where there needs to be a difference
> between C and Rust in terms of kernel rules. For C, there would need
> to be a user. Here you seem to be saying the type system needs it, for
> the type to be meaningful, even if there is no user?
>
> Without Eq, would the compiler complain on an == operation, saying it
> is not a valid operation? Is there a clear difference between nobody
> has implemented this yet, vs such an operation is impossible, such as
> your float example?

Think of it this way: I wrote an implementation of something that
works in situations A and B, but I only use it in situation A. Must I
write my program in a way to make it impossible to use it in situation
B? That's how I see this case. Implementing Eq does not involve adding
any new functions.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-05 12:25 [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] rust: Add IO polling FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] rust: time: Implement PartialEq and PartialOrd for Ktime FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-06 10:28   ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07  5:37     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07  8:28       ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07  8:41       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07  9:29         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 13:15         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 13:59           ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/6] rust: time: Introduce Delta type FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:02   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 18:16     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-07  6:01     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 13:33       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 14:00         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-12 18:56           ` Gary Guo
2024-10-13  0:48             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-15 12:12     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 21:09   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/6] rust: time: Implement addition of Ktime and Delta FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:07   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-06 10:45     ` Fiona Behrens
2024-10-07  6:06       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:36   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-07  6:17     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 14:24       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-09 12:50         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/6] rust: time: add wrapper for fsleep function FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 12:24   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-09 13:28     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/6] rust: Add read_poll_timeout function FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 18:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 22:22     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-06 14:45       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07  6:24         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-07 12:28         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 13:48           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 14:06             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:08             ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07 14:13               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:16                 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-07 14:19                   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:38                     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 17:13                 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 23:12                   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 12:12                     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 12:48                       ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 13:14                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-08 17:16                         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 21:53                           ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 21:57                             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-08 22:26                             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 22:42                               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15  3:36       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-05 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/6] net: phy: qt2025: wait until PHY becomes ready FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-12 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] rust: Add IO polling Boqun Feng
2024-10-13  1:15   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13  2:50     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13  3:16       ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-13  5:15         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-10-13  9:48           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-14 21:18           ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15  3:16             ` FUJITA Tomonori

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