From: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
To: Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, bjorn@kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@intel.com,
jonathan.lemon@gmail.com, sdf@fomichev.me, ast@kernel.org,
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Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6] net: xsk: introduce XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET set/getsockopt
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 20:38:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL+tcoAAVbavbZA8rZLo4ygAyEgPDw7frH6R+rAtJSaTL2XvMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGKCM2z1I85AAXFc@boxer>
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 8:25 PM Maciej Fijalkowski
<maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 08:07:01PM +0800, Jason Xing wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 7:47 PM Maciej Fijalkowski
> > <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 06:43:05PM +0800, Jason Xing wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:51 AM Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 7:01 PM Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This patch provides a setsockopt method to let applications leverage to
> > > > > > adjust how many descs to be handled at most in one send syscall. It
> > > > > > mitigates the situation where the default value (32) that is too small
> > > > > > leads to higher frequency of triggering send syscall.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Considering the prosperity/complexity the applications have, there is no
> > > > > > absolutely ideal suggestion fitting all cases. So keep 32 as its default
> > > > > > value like before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The patch does the following things:
> > > > > > - Add XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET socket option.
> > > > > > - Convert TX_BATCH_SIZE to tx_budget_spent.
> > > > > > - Set tx_budget_spent to 32 by default in the initialization phase as a
> > > > > > per-socket granular control. 32 is also the min value for
> > > > > > tx_budget_spent.
> > > > > > - Set the range of tx_budget_spent as [32, xs->tx->nentries].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The idea behind this comes out of real workloads in production. We use a
> > > > > > user-level stack with xsk support to accelerate sending packets and
> > > > > > minimize triggering syscalls. When the packets are aggregated, it's not
> > > > > > hard to hit the upper bound (namely, 32). The moment user-space stack
> > > > > > fetches the -EAGAIN error number passed from sendto(), it will loop to try
> > > > > > again until all the expected descs from tx ring are sent out to the driver.
> > > > > > Enlarging the XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET value contributes to less frequency of
> > > > > > sendto() and higher throughput/PPS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is what I did in production, along with some numbers as follows:
> > > > > > For one application I saw lately, I suggested using 128 as max_tx_budget
> > > > > > because I saw two limitations without changing any default configuration:
> > > > > > 1) XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET, 2) socket sndbuf which is 212992 decided by
> > > > > > net.core.wmem_default. As to XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET, the scenario behind
> > > > > > this was I counted how many descs are transmitted to the driver at one
> > > > > > time of sendto() based on [1] patch and then I calculated the
> > > > > > possibility of hitting the upper bound. Finally I chose 128 as a
> > > > > > suitable value because 1) it covers most of the cases, 2) a higher
> > > > > > number would not bring evident results. After twisting the parameters,
> > > > > > a stable improvement of around 4% for both PPS and throughput and less
> > > > > > resources consumption were found to be observed by strace -c -p xxx:
> > > > > > 1) %time was decreased by 7.8%
> > > > > > 2) error counter was decreased from 18367 to 572
> > > > >
> > > > > More interesting numbers are arriving here as I run some benchmarks
> > > > > from xdp-project/bpf-examples/AF_XDP-example/ in my VM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Running "sudo taskset -c 2 ./xdpsock -i eth0 -q 1 -l -N -t -b 256"
> > >
> > > do you have a patch against xdpsock that does setsockopt you're
> > > introducing here?
> >
> > Sure, I added the following code in the apply_setsockopt():
> > if (setsockopt(xsk_socket__fd(xsk->xsk), SOL_XDP, 9, &a, sizeof(a)) < 0)
> > ...
> >
> > >
> > > -B -b 256 was for enabling busy polling and giving it 256 budget, which is
> > > not what you wanted to achieve.
> >
> > I checked that I can use getsockopt to get the budget value the same
> > as what I use setsockopt().
> >
> > Sorry, I don't know what you meant here. Could you say more about it?
>
> I meant that -b is for setting SO_BUSY_POLL_BUDGET. just pick different
> knob for your use case.
Sorry again. I still don't follow you. Do you mean this patch doesn't
work as expected in busy polling mode? I tried to use '-B -b 256' and
I managed to see the correct budget value returned from getsockopt().
How is this max tx budget related to the busy polling mode, I wonder?
Or are you talking about the performance test I mentioned? I probably
know what happened there (due to some limit on the host side), but I
still need more time.
Thanks,
Jason
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Using the default configure 32 as the max budget iteration:
> > > > > sock0@eth0:1 txonly xdp-drv
> > > > > pps pkts 1.01
> > > > > rx 0 0
> > > > > tx 48,574 49,152
> > > > >
> > > > > Enlarging the value to 256:
> > > > > sock0@eth0:1 txonly xdp-drv
> > > > > pps pkts 1.00
> > > > > rx 0 0
> > > > > tx 148,277 148,736
> > > > >
> > > > > Enlarging the value to 512:
> > > > > sock0@eth0:1 txonly xdp-drv
> > > > > pps pkts 1.00
> > > > > rx 0 0
> > > > > tx 226,306 227,072
> > > > >
> > > > > The performance of pps goes up by 365% (with max budget set as 512)
> > > > > which is an incredible number :)
> > > >
> > > > Weird thing. I purchased another VM and didn't manage to see such a
> > > > huge improvement.... Good luck is that I own that good machine which
> > > > is still reproducible and I'm still digging in it. So please ignore
> > > > this noise for now :|
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-30 12:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-27 11:01 [PATCH net-next v6] net: xsk: introduce XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET set/getsockopt Jason Xing
2025-06-29 2:51 ` Jason Xing
2025-06-29 10:43 ` Jason Xing
2025-06-30 11:46 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-06-30 12:07 ` Jason Xing
2025-06-30 12:25 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-06-30 12:38 ` Jason Xing [this message]
2025-07-01 0:20 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-02 11:33 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-03 8:15 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-07-03 8:22 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-03 12:29 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-07-03 13:11 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-03 12:25 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2025-07-03 13:09 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-03 14:25 ` Jason Xing
2025-07-03 14:53 ` Jason Xing
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