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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Zi Shen Lim <zlim.lnx@gmail.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/4] bpf: allow bpf programs to tail-call other bpf programs
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:43:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrX7xAuRoRv7WV+LS-r_pOknQdXPpBEbFy5TqB_6eGTD5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555E0A93.2020803@plumgrid.com>

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com> wrote:
> On 5/21/15 9:20 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>>
>> What I mean is: why do we need the interface to be "look up this index
>> in an array and just to what it references" as a single atomic
>> instruction?  Can't we break it down into first "look up this index in
>> an array" and then "do this tail call"?
>
>
> I've actually considered to do this split and do first part as map lookup
> and 2nd as 'tail call to this ptr' insn, but it turned out to be
> painful: verifier gets more complicated, ctx pointer needs to kept
> somewhere, JITs need to special case two things instead of one.
> Also I couldn't see a use case for exposing program pointer to the
> program itself. I've explored this path only because it felt more
> traditional 'goto *ptr' like, but adding new PTR_TO_PROG type to
> verifier looked wasteful.

At some point, I think that it would be worth extending the verifier
to support more general non-integral scalar types. "Pointer to
tail-call target" would be just one of them.  "Pointer to skb" might
be nice as a real first-class scalar type that lives in a register as
opposed to just being magic typed context.

We'd still need some way to stick fds into a map, but that's not
really the verifier's problem.

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-21 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-19 23:59 [PATCH net-next 0/4] bpf: introduce bpf_tail_call() helper Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found] ` <1432079946-9878-1-git-send-email-ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 23:59   ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] bpf: allow bpf programs to tail-call other bpf programs Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]     ` <1432079946-9878-2-git-send-email-ast-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20  0:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20  0:18         ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]           ` <555BD2E4.5050608-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 16:20             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:40               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 16:43                 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrX7xAuRoRv7WV+LS-r_pOknQdXPpBEbFy5TqB_6eGTD5Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 16:53                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 16:57                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrWLpL8o9=P0sDGXUgcQ_LOkgJGrVdv0R6eaec=+WHPfkg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 17:16                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21 16:17       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-21 21:08   ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] bpf: introduce bpf_tail_call() helper David Miller
2015-05-19 23:59 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] x86: bpf_jit: implement " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20  0:11   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20  0:14     ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]       ` <555BD1E9.5000000-uqk4Ao+rVK5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 16:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrV8CStuwvDXDPp5zsZw5FsSpYWBDXMYjLh6Qq703a=cgQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 16:29             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 23:59 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] samples/bpf: bpf_tail_call example for tracing Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 23:59 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] samples/bpf: bpf_tail_call example for networking Alexei Starovoitov

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