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From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: "Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant" <ldir@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
Cc: "jhs@mojatatu.com" <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	"jiri@resnulli.us" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1 v2] net: sched: Introduce conndscp action
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:31:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM_iQpV3S3iK9QaCGJ9wR1EwQik097WY=eRvmM7E2d9KZ34Edw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B9E730DA-63AB-4FB2-8509-4FFF83F63EEF@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 1:50 PM Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
<ldir@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 22 Mar 2019, at 20:05, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:26 AM Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
> > <ldir@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Cong,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your questions.
> >>
> >>> On 22 Mar 2019, at 17:39, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:09 AM Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
> >>> <ldir@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Conndscp is a new tc filter action module.  It is designed to copy DSCPs
> >>>> to conntrack marks and the reverse operation of conntrack mark contained
> >>>> DSCPs to the diffserv field of suitable skbs.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible and feasible to integrate this into connmark?
> >>
> >> I started off coding it that way but quickly ran into my limitations with netlink messaging and became frustrated.  Aside from my own limitations, conndscp ab/uses tcf_qstats requeues & overlimits to indicate DSCP->MARK->DSCP operations and has been useful in proving DSCP/marking operations are occurring in the right times/places.  Integrating with connmark which itself uses overlimits to indicate conntrack mark to skb->mark restoration would lose that differentiation/confirmation/debug ability.  A possibility is to ab/use the drop count instead but I fear that would cause confusion.
> >
> > This sounds problematic, why a flag/parameter doesn't work?
> >
> I don’t understand the question?

You said conndscp uses some stat to save some configuration
information, that is, DSCP->MARK->DSCP operations. But
configuration information is usually saved in a parameter struct
or some priviate flag. So, I have to ask why a flag/parameter doesn't
work for this case?

And, you also implied this is a barrier for you to reuse connmark
action.

Am I misunderstanding anything here?

>
> >
> >>
> >>> Both are intended to retrieve information from conntrack and store
> >>> it into skb. I know the name "connmark" already says it is a mark,
> >>> while yours isn't, I still want to see if we can avoid code duplications.
> >>
> >> I understand your quest :-)  I think conndscp does a bit more than connmark.  Conndscp is two way diffserv<-->conntrack mark operation.  connmark is a single way conntrack mark->skb.mark operation.
> >
> > I am not sure if it is a good idea to modify conntrack in TC,
> > as conntrack doesn't even belong to TC. Retrieving information
> > from conntrack and saving it to skb is fine, as we modify skb
> > in many different ways.
>
> OK, this is why I wanted to ask as RFC before I went too far implementing stuff.  AFAIUI you’re saying it’s tc is okay to restore stuff from a connmark but not to set/change the conntrack mark.  So I need to find a legal place to store a DSCP into a conntrack mark.

Yes.

I guess you should look into netfilter to modify any conntrack attribute,
it is at least where conntrack belongs to. :)

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-22 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-19 19:49 [RFC PATCH 0/1 net-next] net: sched: Introduce conndscp action Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-19 19:49 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-21 17:58   ` kbuild test robot
2019-03-22 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1 v2] " Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-22 17:39   ` Cong Wang
2019-03-22 18:26     ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-22 20:05       ` Cong Wang
2019-03-22 20:50         ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-22 21:31           ` Cong Wang [this message]
2019-03-22 22:06             ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-22 23:09               ` Cong Wang
2019-03-23 17:45                 ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-25 19:17                   ` Cong Wang
2019-03-27 20:32                     ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-29 20:45                       ` [RFC net-next 0/1] net: sched: Introduce conntrack action Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-29 20:45                         ` [RFC net-next 1/1] " Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-01 13:14                         ` [RFC net-next 0/1] " Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-04-01 13:54                           ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-01 14:22                             ` Paul Blakey
2019-04-01 21:06                               ` Cong Wang
2019-04-02  9:24                                 ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-03  7:47                                   ` Paul Blakey
2019-04-03  8:23                                     ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-03 11:56                                       ` Paul Blakey
2019-04-03 12:35                                         ` Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-09 11:33                                           ` [RFC net-next 0/1] net: sched: Introduce act_ctinfo action Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-04-09 11:33                                             ` [RFC net-next 1/1] " Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant

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