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From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: sched: change tcf_del_walker() to use concurrent-safe delete
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 12:58:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM_iQpVhTeKMQmt55zuZ3vTgtrMajzDo3H-3Nw7+UdrGJCJDrA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vbfworyx4hr.fsf@reg-r-vrt-018-180.mtr.labs.mlnx>

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:14 AM Vlad Buslov <vladbu@mellanox.com> wrote:
> > Isn't a concurrent tcf_idr_check_alloc() able to livelock here with
> > your change?
> >
> > idr_for_each_entry_ul{
> >    spin_lock(&idrinfo->lock);
> >    idr_remove();
> >    spin_unlock(&idrinfo->lock);
> >       // tcf_idr_check_alloc() jumps in,
> >      // allocates next ID which can be found
> >       // by idr_get_next_ul()
> > } // the whole loop goes _literately_ infinite...
>
> idr_for_each_entry_ul traverses idr entries with ascending order of
> identifiers, so infinite livelock like this is not possible because it
> never goes back to newly added entries with id<current_id.

I said "literately infinite", it could go from 1 to UINT_MAX,
sufficient to prove my point of livelock.


> >
> > Also, idr_for_each_entry_ul() is supposed to be protected either
> > by RCU or idrinfo->lock, no? With your change or without any change,
> > it doesn't even have any lock after removing RTNL?
>
> After reading this comment I checked actual idr implementation and I
> think you are right. Even though idr_for_each_entry_ul() macro (and
> function idr_get_next_ul() that it uses to iterate over idr entries)
> doesn't specify any locking requirements in comment description (that is
> why this patch doesn't use any), its implementation seems to require
> external synchronization.

Yeah, it is also a reader, so either a reader lock like RCU or a writer lock
like idrinfo->lock.

>
> You suggest I should just hold idrinfo->lock for whole del_walker loop
> duration, or play nicely with potential concurrent users and
> take/release it per action?

My suggestion is pretty clear, you just missed it, let me copy-n-paste:

With what I suggest:

spin_lock(&idrinfo->lock);
idr_for_each_entry_ul{
   idr_remove();
}
spin_unlock(&idrinfo->lock);

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-03  7:06 [PATCH net-next] net: sched: change tcf_del_walker() to use concurrent-safe delete Vlad Buslov
2018-09-03 18:50 ` Cong Wang
2018-09-03 20:33   ` Vlad Buslov
2018-09-04 22:41     ` Cong Wang
2018-09-05  7:03       ` Vlad Buslov
2018-09-05 20:32         ` Cong Wang
2018-09-06 11:14           ` Vlad Buslov
2018-09-06 19:58             ` Cong Wang [this message]
2018-09-07 13:51               ` [PATCH net-next v2] net: sched: change tcf_del_walker() to take idrinfo->lock Vlad Buslov
2018-09-07 19:12                 ` Cong Wang
2018-09-12  8:50                   ` Vlad Buslov
2018-09-13 17:13                     ` Cong Wang
2018-09-14 10:46                       ` Vlad Buslov
2018-09-14 20:53                         ` Cong Wang

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