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From: Xin Guo <guoxin0309@gmail.com>
To: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>
Cc: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell.sw@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/2] tcp: fix delayed ACKs for MSS boundary condition
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 23:56:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMaK5_i-9dGgPtK9AErfjCaBVC72F=jzdQ968q9_TBLXoH3QBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADVnQymiStUHkzmrTrm_uzt1Cw-NgZ_4MuF5+BptArJfGRFQsA@mail.gmail.com>

Neal,
thanks for your explanation,
1)when I read the patch, i cannot understood "if an app reads  >1*MSS data",
because in my view that "the app reads" mean that the copied data
length from sk_receive_queue to user-space buffer
in function tcp_recvmsg_locked(as example) when an app reads data from a socket,
but for "tp->rcv_nxt - tp->rcv_wup > icsk->icsk_ack.rcv_mss ||"
"tp->rcv_nxt - tp->rcv_wup" means that the received data length from
last ack in the kernel for the sk,
and not always the length of copied data to user-space buffer.

2) when we received two small packets(<1*MSS) in the kernel for the
sk, the total length of the two packets may  > 1*MSS.

Regards
Guo Xin

Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com> 于2023年9月28日周四 22:38写道:
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:53 AM Xin Guo <guoxin0309@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Neal:
> > Cannot understand "if an app reads > 1*MSS data" , " If an app reads <
> > 1*MSS data" and " if an app reads exactly 1*MSS of data" in the commit
> > message.
> > In my view, it should be like:"if an app reads and received data > 1*MSS",
> > " If an app reads and received data < 1*MSS" and " if an app reads and
> > received data exactly 1*MSS".
>
> AFAICT your suggestion for tweaking the commit message - "if an app
> reads and received" - would be redundant.  Our proposed phrase, "if an
> app reads", is sufficient, because a read of a certain amount of data
> automatically implies that the data has been received. That is, the
> "and received" part is implied already. After all, how would an app
> read data if it has not been received? :-)
>
> best regards,
> neal

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-28 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-27 15:15 [PATCH net 1/2] tcp: fix quick-ack counting to count actual ACKs of new data Neal Cardwell
2023-09-27 15:15 ` [PATCH net 2/2] tcp: fix delayed ACKs for MSS boundary condition Neal Cardwell
2023-09-28  8:53   ` Xin Guo
2023-09-28 14:38     ` Neal Cardwell
2023-09-28 15:56       ` Xin Guo [this message]
2023-10-01 15:19         ` Neal Cardwell
2023-10-02  5:33           ` Xin Guo

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