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From: Arthur Kepner <akepner@sgi.com>
To: "Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: NAPI, e100, and system performance problem
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0504180943290.15052@linux.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C925F8B43D79CC49ACD0601FB68FF50C03A633C7@orsmsx408>


On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Brandeburg, Jesse wrote:

> ......
> _conclusion_
> 
> Is there any way we can configure how soon or often to be polled
> (called)? For 100Mb speeds at worst we can get about one 64 byte packet
> every 9us (if I did my math right) and since the processors don't take
> that long to schedule NAPI, process a packet and handle an interrupt, we
> just overload the system with interrupts going into and out of napi
> mode.  In this case I only have one adapter getting scheduled.
> 

I'll just chime in to say that I've seen similar behavior,
(but with a very different system.)

The problem with NAPI is (quoting a co-worker) that it
relies on an "accident of timing".

If the CPU speed, time to complete a PIO, and the inter-
packet arrival time are "just so", then a system (or at
least one of its CPUs) can be kept very busy even when
it's not receiving data from the network at a particularly
high rate.

The simple feedback mechanism used by NAPI is good at
balancing latency and throughput, but it doesn't have
any way of recognizing when system resources are being
poorly utilized. It would be nice if interrupt coalesence
could be used by NAPI (or maybe by NAPI_2 ?) in this sort
of situation.

--
Arthur

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-18 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-18  6:11 NAPI, e100, and system performance problem Brandeburg, Jesse
2005-04-18 12:14 ` jamal
2005-04-18 15:36 ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-18 16:55 ` Arthur Kepner [this message]
2005-04-18 19:34   ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-18 20:26   ` jamal
2005-04-19  5:55     ` Greg Banks
2005-04-19 18:36       ` David S. Miller
2005-04-19 20:38         ` NAPI and CPU utilization [was: NAPI, e100, and system performance problem] Arthur Kepner
2005-04-19 20:52           ` Rick Jones
2005-04-19 21:09           ` David S. Miller
     [not found]         ` <20050420145629.GH19415@sgi.com>
2005-04-20 15:15           ` NAPI, e100, and system performance problem jamal
2005-04-22 11:36       ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-22 12:33         ` jamal
2005-04-22 17:21           ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-22 18:18             ` jamal
2005-04-22 18:30               ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-22 18:37                 ` Arthur Kepner
2005-04-22 18:52                   ` David S. Miller
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0504241845070.2934@linux.site>
2005-04-25 11:25                       ` jamal
2005-04-25 18:51                         ` David S. Miller
2005-04-25 11:41                       ` jamal
2005-04-25 12:16                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2005-04-22 19:01                 ` jamal
2005-04-22 19:07                   ` David S. Miller
2005-04-22 19:21                     ` jamal
2005-04-23 20:50                       ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-23 16:56                 ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-22 23:28               ` Greg Banks
2005-04-22 23:40                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-04-22 23:43                   ` David S. Miller
2005-04-23  2:51                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-04-23 17:54                       ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-23  3:04                     ` jamal
2005-04-23 17:14                     ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-22 14:52         ` Robert Olsson
2005-04-22 15:37           ` jamal
2005-04-22 17:22             ` Andi Kleen

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