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From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: damon@damtek.com, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fix FRTO+NewReno problem
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:42:03 +0300 (EEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805130958001.14510@wrl-59.cs.helsinki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080512.154838.163999274.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Mon, 12 May 2008, David Miller wrote:

> From: "Ilpo_Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:12:47 +0300 (EEST)
> 
> > Then one question for DaveM:
> > 
> > What I'm not fully sure of, is do we want this workaround to be a sysctl 
> > or unconditionally enabled which causes potentially up to two unnecessary 
> > retransmissions? With SACK one or both of them will get SACKed before they 
> > get retransmitted (both cases have common scenarios). (I made that 
> > workaround patch for 2.6.24.1, so YMMV if you just plainly try to apply it 
> > to net-2.6).
> 
> I think we will have to handle this behavior, unconditionally, all
> the time.  Don't even add the sysctl.

Yes, that's what I was thinking in the second option.

> If I understand correctly, it is only non-SACK newreno case that can
> get the unnecessary retransmissions, right?  If so, it's not a big
> deal at all.

No, also SACK could get at least one quite easily if TCP has a small 
window, to get two of them with SACK one needs to have a stranger case
unless I missed something. If I just remove that forward transmission LOST 
marking avoidance unconditionally, it fixes that SACKFRTO window of 
failure too which was a pending thing to fix :-).

Btw, the first two fixes (workaround was not included) also fixed bugzilla 
#10063, I just got a confirmation about that as well.

I'll send the two patches still pending separately in a minute.

-- 
 i.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-13  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <48207F06.50306@damtek.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805061912350.8965@wrl-59.cs.helsinki.fi>
     [not found]   ` <4821C37A.7040306@damtek.com>
2008-05-07 22:26     ` Fix FRTO+NewReno problem (Was: Re: This has a work around) Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-08  8:10       ` Fix FRTO+NewReno problem David Miller
2008-05-08 16:50       ` Bug#478062: Fix FRTO+NewReno problem (Was: Re: This has a work around) Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-08 17:05       ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-08 18:16       ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-08 20:42         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 10:08           ` Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]             ` <4828279C.3010102@damtek.com>
2008-05-12 11:32               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 11:55                 ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-12 12:07                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 13:44                     ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-12 14:35                       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 16:40                         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 17:02                         ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-12 18:23                           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 18:39                         ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-12 19:12                           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 19:18                             ` Damon L. Chesser
2008-05-12 19:25                               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-12 22:48                             ` Fix FRTO+NewReno problem David Miller
2008-05-13  9:42                               ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2008-05-13  9:49                                 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 10:04                                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-05-13 10:08                                     ` David Miller

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