From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01008C4332F for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229844AbiJRKYv (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Oct 2022 06:24:51 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:39930 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229752AbiJRKYu (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Oct 2022 06:24:50 -0400 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [IPv6:2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7C7427B3A; Tue, 18 Oct 2022 03:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DshSkJs6j1g2qNN0Ljt9foy0RHxNcTT/yoMkXBCk6VM=; b=XRyCev8owxNX2OahbBXwNPlH8j NTyzHcr0KM7WW1Qx+xtiP8mtX7FGY+inXq9DzlwdvZOVq13q9ZJIZIXJ8NQJXAkybHYU1wZ8pKn9/ CIE7PPNfKz6p4DopKPIGBWeJ5Yoa2Bast+3G8rsUsEGnrZ76MIcscw/xv4AhW1YnLBnM7PG4h4O0+ q7bZcmbdm85v/UucEiVbUQO+G0H/89NCDXKTXLUS1rEdHRs6lUUeL1Ygl5ZIRENPrwROiLW6huFWw RxrJ//6Y+6p2KMT0/d9rZ9Funjiq7TJKY4UdpprjwmdJWJoj+D6xbXpu+p/uRWjJnymr8dua16fOT IPZaqhiA==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:34770) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1okjm5-0004KA-In; Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:24:41 +0100 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1okjm3-00010w-Dk; Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:24:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:24:39 +0100 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Pavel Machek Cc: Sasha Levin , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski , andrew@lunn.ch, hkallweit1@gmail.com, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 5.10 21/34] net: sfp: move Alcatel Lucent 3FE46541AA fixup Message-ID: References: <20221009222129.1218277-1-sashal@kernel.org> <20221009222129.1218277-21-sashal@kernel.org> <20221018094332.GE1264@duo.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221018094332.GE1264@duo.ucw.cz> Sender: Russell King (Oracle) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:43:32AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > Add a new fixup mechanism to the SFP quirks, and use it for this > > module. > > There are two preparation patches for this, but this does not fix > anything -- it just reimplement quirk in a different way. > > We should not have patches 19-21 in stable. They should be being dropped as, as a result of this ongoing madness, I've requested stable to no longer consider *any* of my patches for AUTOSEL treatment. I'm afraid that the stable kernel is loosing its purpose, and is becoming just another development tree as long as this autosel process exists that picks up what are development patches - coupled with the "if you don't respond we're adding it to stable anyway" approach means that it's a hell of a lot of work for maintainers to be watching what stable is doing 24 hours a day 365 days a year with _no_ possibility of having a break from that. As I understand it, the autosel stuff is using an AI to work out whether the patch is suitable or not, and no one bothers to look at the quality of its selection - that task is loaded on to each maintainer and requires said maintainer to never take any time off from that task. It's madness. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!