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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	Madalin Bucur <madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com>,
	Camelia Groza <camelia.groza@nxp.com>,
	Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Maxim Kochetkov <fido_max@inbox.ru>,
	Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>,
	Antoine Tenart <atenart@kernel.org>,
	Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	Raag Jadav <raagjadav@gmail.com>,
	Siddharth Vadapalli <s-vadapalli@ti.com>,
	Ong Boon Leong <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
	Colin Foster <colin.foster@in-advantage.com>,
	Marek Behun <marek.behun@nic.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:51:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y30MNsLs164iX3x5@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221122122451.5hk5aw4q6mu6t22o@skbuf>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 02:24:51PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 09:38:43AM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > 88E1111 is the commonly used accessible PHY on gigabit SFPs, as this
> > PHY implements I2C access natively.
> 
> As a side question, I suppose it would be possible to put PHYs on copper
> SFP modules even if they don't natively implement I2C access. In that case,
> if configuration from the host is at all available, how does that happen,
> is there some sort of protocol translator (I2C -> MDIO) on the module?

Modules that provide access to the PHY seem to do so on I2C address 0x56
and require specific I2C access patterns. I think the 88e1111 set a kind
of "standard" and many follow that or similar.

Some just don't give any kind of access to the PHY - for example, the
Mikrotik modules have an AR803x PHY on them, but there is no way to
access it.

> Do you know of any part number for an I2C controlled MDIO controller?

I think many that don't use a microcontroller - for example, when
someone puts an 88x3310, bcm84881, the protocols are very similar but
timing may vary.

Some of the patches from Marek provided a different way - via the 0x50
or 0x51 "eeprom" addresses, accessing specific addresses with in those
spaces, and if I remember correctly, requiring a "password" to enable
access.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-18  0:01 [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/8] net: phylink: let phylink_sfp_config_phy() determine the MLO_AN_* mode to use Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/8] net: phylink: introduce generic method to query PHY in-band autoneg capability Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:11   ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:42     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:49       ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:56         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:57           ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 16:00             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:21   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22  9:41     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:38   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 10:01     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 11:16     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:11       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:58         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 17:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:14             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:28             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 19:36               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-23 12:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-23 13:11                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 12:30                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-25 13:43                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 15:35                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-27 22:14                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:40                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:43                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 14:07                               ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-22 12:24     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 17:51       ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 4/8] net: phylink: add option to sync in-band autoneg setting between PCS and PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 5/8] net: phylink: explicitly configure in-band autoneg for on-board PHYs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 10:09   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18 11:25     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 14:37       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 6/8] net: phy: mscc: configure in-band auto-negotiation for VSC8514 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 7/8] net: phy: at803x: validate in-band autoneg for AT8031/AT8033 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 8/8] net: opt MAC drivers which use Lynx PCS into phylink sync_an_inband Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 18:38 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Sean Anderson
2022-11-21 19:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 22:42     ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22  0:17       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:10         ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 16:30           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:45             ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 17:59           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 18:09             ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22  9:16   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-02 12:16 ` Maxim Kochetkov
2022-12-05 17:19   ` Vladimir Oltean

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