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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: sundeep subbaraya <sundeep.lkml@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, hariprasad <hkelam@marvell.com>,
	Geetha sowjanya <gakula@marvell.com>,
	Sunil Kovvuri Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
	Subbaraya Sundeep <sbhatta@marvell.com>,
	Rakesh Babu <rsaladi2@marvell.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>,
	"anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [net-next PATCH 1/2] octeontx2-pf: Add devlink param to init and de-init serdes
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXmWb2PZJQhpMfrR@shredder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211027100857.4d25544c@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:08:57AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:13:32 +0530 sundeep subbaraya wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 16:01:14 +0530 Subbaraya Sundeep wrote:  
> > > > From: Rakesh Babu <rsaladi2@marvell.com>
> > > >
> > > > The physical/SerDes link of an netdev interface is not
> > > > toggled on interface bring up and bring down. This is
> > > > because the same link is shared between PFs and its VFs.
> > > > This patch adds devlink param to toggle physical link so
> > > > that it is useful in cases where a physical link needs to
> > > > be re-initialized.  
> > >
> > > So it's a reset? Or are there cases where user wants the link
> > > to stay down?  
> > 
> > There are cases where the user wants the link to stay down and debug.
> > We are adding this to help customers to debug issues wrt physical links.
> 
> Intel has a similar thing, they keep adding a ethtool priv flag called 
> "link-down-on-close" to all their drivers.

This is the list I compiled the previous time we discussed it:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c3880bd159d431d06b687b0b5ab22e24e6ef0070
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d5ec9e2ce41ac198de2ee18e0e529b7ebbc67408
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ab4ab73fc1ec6dec548fa36c5e383ef5faa7b4c1

It seems that various drivers default to not shutting down the link upon
ndo_stop(), but some users want to override it. I hit that too as it
breaks ECMP (switch thinks the link is up).

> Maybe others do this, too.  It's time we added a standard API for
> this.

The new parameter sounds like a reset, but it can also be achieved by:

# ethtool --set-priv-flags eth0 link-down-on-close on
# ip link set dev eth0 down
# ip link set dev eth0 up

Where the first command is replaced by a more standard ethtool API.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-27 10:31 [net-next PATCH 0/2] Add a devlink param and documentation Subbaraya Sundeep
2021-10-27 10:31 ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] octeontx2-pf: Add devlink param to init and de-init serdes Subbaraya Sundeep
2021-10-27 15:38   ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]     ` <PH0PR18MB4671C22DB7C8E5C46647860FA1859@PH0PR18MB4671.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
2021-10-27 16:43       ` Fw: [EXT] " sundeep subbaraya
2021-10-27 17:08         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-27 18:11           ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
     [not found]             ` <BY3PR18MB473794E01049EC94156E2858C6859@BY3PR18MB4737.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
2021-10-27 22:24               ` Ido Schimmel
2021-10-28 12:18                 ` sundeep subbaraya
2021-10-28 13:51                   ` Ido Schimmel
2021-10-30  7:25                     ` sundeep subbaraya
2021-11-07  9:21                       ` Ido Schimmel
2021-11-08 15:54                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-11 14:51                           ` Ido Schimmel
2021-11-11 16:47                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-14  8:38                               ` Ido Schimmel
2021-11-15  4:19                                 ` Roopa Prabhu
2021-11-15 15:11                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-19 10:47                                     ` sundeep subbaraya
2021-11-19 14:09                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-19 14:26                                         ` sundeep subbaraya
2021-11-19 14:49                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-27 10:31 ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] devlink: add documentation for octeontx2 driver Subbaraya Sundeep
2021-10-27 15:39   ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]     ` <PH0PR18MB46711B24C7305B8488266C8CA1859@PH0PR18MB4671.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
2021-10-27 17:04       ` Fw: [EXT] " sundeep subbaraya

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