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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Edwin Peer <edwin.peer@broadcom.com>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] devlink: add an explicit locking API
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 19:50:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYF6cTbyXtrxNwwW@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211102081606.5bc39f21@kicinski-fedora-PC1C0HJN>

On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 08:16:06AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 09:44:17 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 01:04:03PM -0700, Edwin Peer wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 12:23 AM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > The average driver author doesn't know locking well and won't be able to
> > > > use devlink reference counting correctly.  
> > > 
> > > I think this problem largely only exists to the extent that locking
> > > and lifecycle requirements are poorly documented. :P  
> > 
> > I'm talking about general locking concepts that are perfectly documented
> > and still people do crazy things with it. :)
> 
> Yet you seem to be pushing for drivers to implement their own locking.

It wasn't me who suggested to expose devlink internal locks and
reference counting to the drivers. In my implementation, drivers
don't need to manage devlink at all and we will be able internally
understand if lock is needed or not.

At least in theory, working to make it true.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-02 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-30 23:12 [RFC 0/5] devlink: add an explicit locking API Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-30 23:12 ` [RFC 1/5] devlink: add unlocked APIs Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-30 23:12 ` [RFC 2/5] devlink: add API for explicit locking Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-30 23:12 ` [RFC 3/5] devlink: allow locking of all ops Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-30 23:12 ` [RFC 4/5] netdevsim: minor code move Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-30 23:12 ` [RFC 5/5] netdevsim: use devlink locking Jakub Kicinski
2021-10-31  7:23 ` [RFC 0/5] devlink: add an explicit locking API Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-01 14:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-01 18:36     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-01 21:16       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-02  8:08         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-02 15:14           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-02 18:14             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-03  0:05               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-03  7:23                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-03 14:12                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-01 20:04   ` Edwin Peer
2021-11-02  7:44     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-11-02 15:16       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-02 17:50         ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2021-11-03  9:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2021-11-03 14:52   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-03 19:19     ` Jiri Pirko

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