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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	George McCollister <george.mccollister@gmail.com>,
	Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" <UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 03/12] net: dsa: replace phylink_get_interfaces() with phylink_get_caps()
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 20:56:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YZ6nAcp+CraITcHD@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211124202612.iyrq3dx7nefr5zzi@skbuf>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 08:26:13PM +0000, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 07:10:49PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 06:26:48PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 06:15:08PM +0000, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 05:52:38PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > > Phylink needs slightly more information than phylink_get_interfaces()
> > > > > allows us to get from the DSA drivers - we need the MAC capabilities.
> > > > > Replace the phylink_get_interfaces() method with phylink_get_caps() to
> > > > > allow DSA drivers to fill in the phylink_config MAC capabilities field
> > > > > as well.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Russell King (Oracle) <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
> > > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > The effects of submitting new API without any user :)
> > > 
> > > It had users at the time, but they were not submitted, and the addition
> > > of MAC capabilities was a future development. Had they been submitted at
> > > the time, then they would have required updating too.
> > 
> > That was a bit rushed... to explain more fully.
> > 
> > Prior to the merge window, the development work was centered around
> > only eliminating the PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_xxx checks and the complexity
> > that the PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA technique brought into the many
> > validation functions. Users of this had already been merged, and
> > included mvneta and mvpp2. See these commits, which are all in
> > v5.16-rc1:
> > 
> > b63f1117aefc net: mvpp2: clean up mvpp2_phylink_validate()
> > 76947a635874 net: mvpp2: drop use of phylink_helper_basex_speed()
> > 6c0c4b7ac06f net: mvpp2: remove interface checks in mvpp2_phylink_validate()
> > 8498e17ed4c5 net: mvpp2: populate supported_interfaces member
> > 
> > 099cbfa286ab net: mvneta: drop use of phylink_helper_basex_speed()
> > d9ca72807ecb net: mvneta: remove interface checks in mvneta_validate()
> > fdedb695e6a8 net: mvneta: populate supported_interfaces member
> > 
> > The original commit adding phylink_get_interfaces() extended this
> > into DSA, and the intention was to submit at least mv88e6xxx, but
> > it was too close to the merge window to do so.
> > 
> > Through making that change and eventually eliminating the basex helper
> > from all drivers that were using it, thereby making the validate()
> > behaviour much cleaner, it then became clear that it was possible to
> > push this cleanup further by also introducing a MAC capabilities field
> > to phylink_config.
> > 
> > The addition of the supported_interfaces member and the addition of the
> > mac_capabilities member are two entirely separate developments, but I
> > have now chosen to combine the two after the merge window in order to
> > reduce the number of patches. They were separate patches in my tree up
> > until relatively recently, and still are for the mt7530 and b53 drivers
> > currently.
> > 
> > So no, this is not "The effects of submitting new API without any user".
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> Ok, the patch is not the effect of submitting new API without any user.
> It is just the effect of more development done to API without any user,
> without any causal relationship between the two. My bad.

I do wonder whether you intentionally missed where I said "It had users
at the time, but they were not submitted". This is why we don't get on
well, you're always so confrontational.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-24 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-24 17:46 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/12] Allow DSA drivers to set all phylink capabilities Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/12] net: dsa: consolidate phylink creation Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:11   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 23:25     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/12] net: dsa: support use of phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:13   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/12] net: dsa: replace phylink_get_interfaces() with phylink_get_caps() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:15   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 18:26     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 19:10       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 20:26         ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 20:56           ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-11-24 21:18             ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/12] net: dsa: ar9331: convert to phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/12] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 20:03   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-04  4:18     ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-04  8:59       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 14:42         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 14:52         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 15:01           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-05 12:58             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 15:59           ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-06 16:13             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 16:36               ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-06 16:39                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 17:06           ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-06 19:26             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-07 18:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/12] net: dsa: hellcreek: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-25  8:49   ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/12] net: dsa: ksz8795: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/12] net: dsa: lantiq: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-28 18:49   ` Hauke Mehrtens
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/12] net: dsa: ocelot: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 20:07   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 21:21     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/12] net: dsa: qca8k: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 11/12] net: dsa: sja1105: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 19:53   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 21:08     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 22:34       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 23:21         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 23:32           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-25 12:56             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-25 16:18               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 12/12] net: dsa: xrs700x: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 16:15 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/12] Allow DSA drivers to set all phylink capabilities Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 19:28   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-03 19:44     ` Florian Fainelli

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