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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	George McCollister <george.mccollister@gmail.com>,
	Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 05/12] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: convert to phylink_generic_validate()
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:58:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yay3gF32Nb3Y3pd3@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YauCzEZPGMaRMKf6@lunn.ch>

On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 04:01:32PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > The order of 1000baseKX/Full and 1000baseT/Full is such that we
> > prefer 1000baseKX/Full over 1000baseT/Full, but 1000baseKX/Full is
> > a lot rarer than 1000baseT/Full, and thus is much less likely to
> > be preferred.
> > 
> > This causes phylink problems - it means a fixed link specifying a
> > speed of 1G and full duplex gets an ethtool linkmode of 1000baseKX/Full
> > rather than 1000baseT/Full as would be expected - and since we offer
> > userspace a software emulation of a conventional copper PHY, we want
> > to offer copper modes in preference to anything else. However, we do
> > still want to allow the rarer modes as well.
> 
> 2.5G already places T before X, so it makes it more uniform with that.
> 
> For 10G, T comes last. Maybe we should also consider this case?  Do we
> see more 10G copper than fibre/backplane?

For a fixed link, I'm not sure - but given that speeds higher than 1G
can't be emulated by the C22 PHY emulation, does it really matter?

Looking through the DTs that we have in the kernel tree, we have some
fixed-links at 10G speed, and no one has complained, so I'd suggest
leaving sleeping dogs and all that.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-05 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-24 17:46 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/12] Allow DSA drivers to set all phylink capabilities Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/12] net: dsa: consolidate phylink creation Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:11   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 23:25     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/12] net: dsa: support use of phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:13   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/12] net: dsa: replace phylink_get_interfaces() with phylink_get_caps() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 18:15   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 18:26     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 19:10       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 20:26         ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 20:56           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 21:18             ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/12] net: dsa: ar9331: convert to phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/12] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 20:03   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-04  4:18     ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-04  8:59       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 14:42         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 14:52         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-04 15:01           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-05 12:58             ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-12-06 15:59           ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-06 16:13             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 16:36               ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-06 16:39                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-06 17:06           ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-06 19:26             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-07 18:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/12] net: dsa: hellcreek: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-25  8:49   ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2021-11-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/12] net: dsa: ksz8795: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/12] net: dsa: lantiq: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-28 18:49   ` Hauke Mehrtens
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/12] net: dsa: ocelot: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 20:07   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 21:21     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/12] net: dsa: qca8k: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 11/12] net: dsa: sja1105: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 19:53   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 21:08     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 22:34       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 23:21         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-24 23:32           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-25 12:56             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-25 16:18               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-11-24 17:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 12/12] net: dsa: xrs700x: " Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 16:15 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/12] Allow DSA drivers to set all phylink capabilities Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-03 19:28   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-12-03 19:44     ` Florian Fainelli

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