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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/7] net: phylink: add pcs_validate() method
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:27:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbkoWsMPgw5RsQCo@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d7361a9-ea74-ce75-b5e0-904596fbefd1@seco.com>

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 02:49:13PM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote:
> Hi Russell,
> 
> On 12/14/21 9:48 AM, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > Add a hook for PCS to validate the link parameters. This avoids MAC
> > drivers having to have knowledge of their PCS in their validate()
> > method, thereby allowing several MAC drivers to be simplfied.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Russell King (Oracle) <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
> > ---
> >   drivers/net/phy/phylink.c | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   include/linux/phylink.h   | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >   2 files changed, 51 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/phylink.c b/drivers/net/phy/phylink.c
> > index c7035d65e159..420201858564 100644
> > --- a/drivers/net/phy/phylink.c
> > +++ b/drivers/net/phy/phylink.c
> > @@ -424,13 +424,44 @@ static int phylink_validate_mac_and_pcs(struct phylink *pl,
> >   					struct phylink_link_state *state)
> >   {
> >   	struct phylink_pcs *pcs;
> > +	int ret;
> > 
> > +	/* Get the PCS for this interface mode */
> >   	if (pl->mac_ops->mac_select_pcs) {
> >   		pcs = pl->mac_ops->mac_select_pcs(pl->config, state->interface);
> >   		if (IS_ERR(pcs))
> >   			return PTR_ERR(pcs);
> > +	} else {
> > +		pcs = pl->pcs;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	if (pcs) {
> > +		/* The PCS, if present, must be setup before phylink_create()
> > +		 * has been called. If the ops is not initialised, print an
> > +		 * error and backtrace rather than oopsing the kernel.
> > +		 */
> > +		if (!pcs->ops) {
> > +			phylink_err(pl, "interface %s: uninitialised PCS\n",
> > +				    phy_modes(state->interface));
> > +			dump_stack();
> > +			return -EINVAL;
> > +		}
> > +
> > +		/* Validate the link parameters with the PCS */
> > +		if (pcs->ops->pcs_validate) {
> > +			ret = pcs->ops->pcs_validate(pcs, supported, state);
> 
> I wonder if we can add a pcs->supported_interfaces. That would let me
> write something like

I have two arguments against that:

1) Given that .mac_select_pcs should not return a PCS that is not
   appropriate for the provided state->interface, I don't see what
   use having a supported_interfaces member in the PCS would give.
   All that phylink would end up doing is validating that the MAC
   was giving us a sane PCS.

2) In the case of a static PCS (in other words, one attached just
   after phylink_create_pcs()) the PCS is known at creation time,
   so limiting phylink_config.supported_interfaces according to the
   single attached interface seems sane, rather than phylink having
   to repeatedly recalculate the bitwise-and between both
   supported_interface masks.

> static int xilinx_pcs_validate(struct phylink_pcs *pcs,
> 			       unsigned long *supported,
> 			       struct phylink_link_state *state)
> {
> 	__ETHTOOL_DECLARE_LINK_MODE_MASK(mask) = { 0, };
> 
> 	phylink_set_port_modes(mask);
> 	phylink_set(mask, Autoneg);
> 	phylink_get_linkmodes(mask, state->interface,
> 			      MAC_10FD | MAC_100FD | MAC_1000FD);
> 
> 	linkmode_and(supported, supported, mask);
> }

This would be buggy - doesn't the PCS allow pause frames through?

I already have a conversion for axienet in my tree, and it doesn't
need a pcs_validate() implementation. I'll provide it below.

> And of course, the above could become phylink_pcs_validate_generic with
> the addition of a pcs->pcs_capabilities member.
> 
> The only wrinkle is that we need to handle PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA,
> because of the pcs = pl->pcs assignment above. This would require doing
> the phylink_validate_any dance again.

Why do you think PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA needs handling? If this is not
set in phylink_config.supported_interfaces (which it should never be)
then none of the validation will be called with this.

The special PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA meaning "give us everything you have"
is something I want to get rid of, and is something that I am already
explicitly not supporting for pcs_validate(). It doesn't work with the
mac_select_pcs() model, since that can't return all PCS that may be
used.

> 	if (state->interface == PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA)
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> at the top of phylink_pcs_validate_generic (perhaps with a warning).
> That would catch any MACs who use a PCS which wants the MAC to have
> supported_interfaces.

... which could be too late.

> > +			if (ret < 0 || phylink_is_empty_linkmode(supported))
> > +				return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > +			/* Ensure the advertising mask is a subset of the
> > +			 * supported mask.
> > +			 */
> > +			linkmode_and(state->advertising, state->advertising,
> > +				     supported);
> > +		}
> >   	}
> > 
> > +	/* Then validate the link parameters with the MAC */
> >   	pl->mac_ops->validate(pl->config, supported, state);
> 
> Shouldn't the PCS stuff happen here? Later in the series, you do things
> like
> 
> 	if (phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(state->interface) &&
> 	    !phylink_test(state->advertising, Autoneg))
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> but there's nothing to stop a mac validate from coming along and saying
> "we don't support autonegotiation".

How is autonegotiation a property of the MAC when there is a PCS?
In what situation is autonegotiation terminated at the MAC when
there is a PCS present?

The only case I can think of is where the PCS is tightly tied to the
MAC, and in that case you end up with a choice whether or not to model
a PCS in software. This is the case with mvneta and mvpp2 - there is
no separation of the MAC and PCS in the hardware register design. There
is one register that controls pause/duplex advertisement and speeds
irrespective of the PHY interface, whether the interface mode to the
external world is 1000BASE-X, SGMII, QSGMII, RGMII etc. mvpp2 is
slightly different in that it re-uses the GMAC design from mvneta for
speeds <= 2.5G, and an entirely separate XLG implementation for 5G
and 10G. Here, we model these as two separate PCS that we choose
between depending on the interface.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-14 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 14:47 [PATCH net-next 0/7] net: phylink: add PCS validation Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 1/7] net: phylink: add mac_select_pcs() method to phylink_mac_ops Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-15  2:35   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 2/7] net: phylink: add pcs_validate() method Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 19:49   ` Sean Anderson
2021-12-14 23:27     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-12-14 23:29       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 23:54       ` Sean Anderson
2021-12-15  0:32         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-16 15:42           ` Sean Anderson
2021-12-16 17:10             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 3/7] net: mvpp2: use .mac_select_pcs() interface Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 4/7] net: mvpp2: convert to pcs_validate() and phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 5/7] net: mvneta: convert to use mac_prepare()/mac_finish() Russell King
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 6/7] net: mvneta: convert to phylink pcs operations Russell King
2021-12-14 14:48 ` [PATCH net-next 7/7] net: mvneta: convert to pcs_validate() and phylink_generic_validate() Russell King (Oracle)

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