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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Dimitris Michailidis <d.michailidis@fungible.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 4/8] net/funeth: ethtool operations
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 03:24:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yc5p5iAELXFCuY9t@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOkoqZk3tgLi-iY0gju8KAwWvcyHXJUQ61MxAij9BwfMrakniA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 05:23:56PM -0800, Dimitris Michailidis wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:26 PM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > > I _think_ this is wrong. pause->autoneg means we are autoneg'ing
> > > > pause, not that we are using auto-neg in general. The user can have
> > > > autoneg turned on, but force pause by setting pause->autoneg to False.
> > > > In that case, the pause->rx_pause and pause->tx_pause are given direct
> > > > to the MAC, not auto negotiated.
> > >
> > > Having this mixed mode needs device FW support, which isn't there today.
> >
> > So if you are asked to set pause with pause->autoneg False, return
> > -EOPNOTSUPP. And pause get should always return True. It is O.K, to
> > support a subset of a feature, and say you don't support the
> > rest. That is much better than wrongly implementing it until your
> > firmware gets the needed support.
> 
> include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h has this comment
> 
>  * If the link is autonegotiated, drivers should use
>  * mii_advertise_flowctrl() or similar code to set the advertised
>  * pause frame capabilities based on the @rx_pause and @tx_pause flags,
>  * even if @autoneg is zero. ...
> 
> I read this as saying that pause->autoneg is ignored if AN is on and the
> requested pause settings are fed to AN. I believe this is what the code
> here implements.
> 
> Whereas you are saying that pause->autoneg == 0 should force
> despite AN. Right?

Take a look at phylink_ethtool_set_pauseparam() and accompanying
functions. This is a newish central implementation for any MAC/PHY
with Linux controlling the hardware. There are ambiguities in the API
description, so it would be better if your driver/firmware combo does
the same a the core Linux code. When Russell wrote that code, there
was quite a bit of discussion what the documentation actually means.

    Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-31  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-30 16:39 [PATCH net-next 0/8] new Fungible Ethernet driver Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] PCI: add Fungible vendor ID to pci_ids.h Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] net/fungible: Add service module for Fungible drivers Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 17:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 18:24     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 19:00       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 20:13         ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] net/funeth: probing and netdev ops Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 17:40   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 18:33     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 19:02       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 20:05         ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-31 11:14   ` Heiner Kallweit
2022-01-03 22:11     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] net/funeth: ethtool operations Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 18:04   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 20:22     ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 20:30       ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 20:43         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 20:56           ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 20:27     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 22:25       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-31  1:23         ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-31  2:24           ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2021-12-31  3:23             ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 20:28   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 20:31     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] net/funeth: devlink support Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 17:41   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] net/funeth: add the data path Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] net/funeth: add kTLS TX control part Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 16:39 ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] net/fungible: Kconfig, Makefiles, and MAINTAINERS Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 17:43   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 20:54     ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 21:16       ` Dimitris Michailidis
2021-12-30 22:17         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-30 22:27       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-30 22:59         ` Dimitris Michailidis

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