From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Yangbo Lu <yangbo.lu@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 5/5] ptp: start virtual clocks at current system time.
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 09:42:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfjyX893NV2Hga35@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220131163240.GA22495@hoboy.vegasvil.org>
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:32:40AM -0800, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:21:08AM +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > To me, it seems very strange to start the PHC at 0. It makes the
> > initial clock correction unnecessarily larger by ~7 orders of
> > magnitude. The system clock is initialized from the RTC, which can
> > have an error comparable to the TAI-UTC offset, especially if the
> > machine was turned off for a longer period of time, so why not
> > initialize the PHC from the system time? The error is much smaller
> > than billions of seconds.
>
> When the clock reads Jan 1, 1970, then that is clearly wrong, and so a
> user might suspect that it is uninititalized.
FWIW, my first thought when I saw the huge offset in ptp4l was that
something is horribly broken.
> I prefer the clarity of the first case.
I'd prefer smaller initial error and consistency. The vast majority of
existing drivers seem to initialize the clock at current system time.
Drivers starting at 0 now create confusion. If this is the right way,
shouldn't be all existing drivers patched to follow that?
--
Miroslav Lichvar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-01 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-27 11:45 [PATCH net-next 0/5] Virtual PTP clock improvements and fix Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] ptp: unregister virtual clocks when unregistering physical clock Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 23:58 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2022-01-31 10:07 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-31 12:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-01-27 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] ptp: increase maximum adjustment of virtual clocks Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] ptp: add gettimex64() to " Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] ptp: add getcrosststamp() " Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] ptp: start virtual clocks at current system time Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 22:01 ` Richard Cochran
2022-01-31 10:21 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-31 16:32 ` Richard Cochran
2022-02-01 8:42 ` Miroslav Lichvar [this message]
2022-02-01 19:10 ` Richard Cochran
2022-02-01 19:03 ` Richard Cochran
2022-02-02 9:07 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2022-01-27 22:02 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] Virtual PTP clock improvements and fix Richard Cochran
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