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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: dev: Makes sure netif_rx() can be invoked in any context.
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 16:10:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfvwbsKm4XtTUlsx@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iLVPnhybrdjRh6ccv6UZHW-_W0ZHRO5c7dnWU44FUgd_g@mail.gmail.com>

On 2022-02-02 09:43:14 [-0800], Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Maybe worth mentioning this commit will show a negative impact, for
> network traffic
> over loopback interface.
> 
> My measure of the cost of local_bh_disable()/local_bh_enable() is ~6
> nsec on one of my lab x86 hosts.

So you are worried that 
    dev_loopback_xmit() -> netif_rx_ni()

becomes
    dev_loopback_xmit() -> netif_rx()

and by that 6nsec slower because of that bh off/on? Can these 6nsec get
a little lower if we substract the overhead of preempt-off/on? 
But maybe I picked the wrong loopback here.

> Perhaps we could have a generic netif_rx(), and a __netif_rx() for the
> virtual drivers (lo and maybe tunnels).
> 
> void __netif_rx(struct sk_buff *skb);
> 
> static inline int netif_rx(struct sk_buff *skb)
> {
>    int res;
>     local_bh_disable();
>     res = __netif_rx(skb);
>   local_bh_enable();
>   return res;
> }

But what is __netif_rx() doing? netif_rx_ni() has this part:

|       preempt_disable();
|       err = netif_rx_internal(skb);
|       if (local_softirq_pending())
|               do_softirq();
|       preempt_enable();

to ensure that smp_processor_id() and friends are quiet plus any raised
softirqs are processed. With the current netif_rx() we end up with:

|       local_bh_disable();
|       ret = netif_rx_internal(skb);
|       local_bh_enable();

which provides the same. Assuming __netif_rx() as:

| int __netif_rx(skb)
| {
|         trace_netif_rx_entry(skb);
| 
|         ret = netif_rx_internal(skb);
|         trace_netif_rx_exit(ret);
| 
|         return ret;
| }

and the loopback interface is not invoking this in_interrupt() context.

Sebastian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-02 12:28 [PATCH net-next 0/4] net: dev: PREEMPT_RT fixups Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 12:28 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] net: dev: Remove the preempt_disable() in netif_rx_internal() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 17:10   ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 12:00     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-03 12:17       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 12:41         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-03 15:50           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 15:20           ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: dev: Remove preempt_disable() and get_cpu() " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 16:31             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-04 16:42               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 16:32             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 12:16     ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] net: dev: Remove the preempt_disable() " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 12:28 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] net: dev: Remove get_cpu() " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 17:14   ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 12:14   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-02 12:28 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: dev: Makes sure netif_rx() can be invoked in any context Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 16:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-03 12:20     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 19:38       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-02 17:43   ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 12:19     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-03 15:10     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-02-03 15:25       ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 15:40         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 16:18           ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-03 16:44             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 17:45               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 13:00             ` [PATCH net-next v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 18:46               ` Eric Dumazet
2022-02-02 12:28 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] net: dev: Make rps_lock() disable interrupts Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-02 16:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-03 16:41     ` [PATCH net-next v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 19:39       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-02 16:14 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] net: dev: PREEMPT_RT fixups Jakub Kicinski
2022-02-03 11:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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