From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>, "Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
"Mykola Lysenko" <mykolal@fb.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
"Freysteinn Alfredsson" <freysteinn.alfredsson@kau.se>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] xdp: Add packet queueing and scheduling capabilities
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 12:23:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtRhrvt6wUPWTvWU@pop-os.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP01T77ov2ARuR+on+D-8cgYSsndF9JKTuYMT9dc1Qu8wuG5sQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 08:41:10PM +0200, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 at 20:17, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:52:07PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 4:14 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Packet forwarding is an important use case for XDP, which offers
> > > >> significant performance improvements compared to forwarding using the
> > > >> regular networking stack. However, XDP currently offers no mechanism to
> > > >> delay, queue or schedule packets, which limits the practical uses for
> > > >> XDP-based forwarding to those where the capacity of input and output links
> > > >> always match each other (i.e., no rate transitions or many-to-one
> > > >> forwarding). It also prevents an XDP-based router from doing any kind of
> > > >> traffic shaping or reordering to enforce policy.
> > > >>
> > > >> This series represents a first RFC of our attempt to remedy this lack. The
> > > >> code in these patches is functional, but needs additional testing and
> > > >> polishing before being considered for merging. I'm posting it here as an
> > > >> RFC to get some early feedback on the API and overall design of the
> > > >> feature.
> > > >>
> > > >> DESIGN
> > > >>
> > > >> The design consists of three components: A new map type for storing XDP
> > > >> frames, a new 'dequeue' program type that will run in the TX softirq to
> > > >> provide the stack with packets to transmit, and a set of helpers to dequeue
> > > >> packets from the map, optionally drop them, and to schedule an interface
> > > >> for transmission.
> > > >>
> > > >> The new map type is modelled on the PIFO data structure proposed in the
> > > >> literature[0][1]. It represents a priority queue where packets can be
> > > >> enqueued in any priority, but is always dequeued from the head. From the
> > > >> XDP side, the map is simply used as a target for the bpf_redirect_map()
> > > >> helper, where the target index is the desired priority.
> > > >
> > > > I have the same question I asked on the series from Cong:
> > > > Any considerations for existing carousel/edt-like models?
> > >
> > > Well, the reason for the addition in patch 5 (continuously increasing
> > > priorities) is exactly to be able to implement EDT-like behaviour, where
> > > the priority is used as time units to clock out packets.
> >
> > Are you sure? I seriouly doubt your patch can do this at all...
> >
> > Since your patch relies on bpf_map_push_elem(), which has no room for
> > 'key' hence you reuse 'flags' but you also reserve 4 bits there... How
> > could tstamp be packed with 4 reserved bits??
> >
> > To answer Stanislav's question, this is how my code could handle EDT:
> >
> > // BPF_CALL_3(bpf_skb_map_push, struct bpf_map *, map, struct sk_buff *, skb, u64, key)
> > skb->tstamp = XXX;
> > bpf_skb_map_push(map, skb, skb->tstamp);
>
> It is also possible here, if we could not push into the map with a
> certain key it wouldn't be a PIFO.
> Please look at patch 16/17 for an example (test_xdp_pifo.c), it's just
> that the interface is different (bpf_redirect_map),
Sorry for mentioning that I don't care about XDP case at all. Please let me
know how this works for eBPF Qdisc. This is what I found in 16/17:
+ ret = bpf_map_push_elem(&pifo_map, &val, flags);
> the key has been expanded to 64 bits to accommodate such use cases. It
> is also possible in a future version of the patch to amortize the cost
> of taking the lock for each enqueue by doing batching, similar to what
> cpumap/devmap implementations do.
How about the 4 reserved bits?
ret = bpf_map_push_elem(&pifo_map, &val, flags);
which leads to:
+#define BPF_PIFO_PRIO_MASK (~0ULL >> 4)
...
+static int pifo_map_push_elem(struct bpf_map *map, void *value, u64 flags)
+{
+ struct bpf_pifo_map *pifo = container_of(map, struct bpf_pifo_map, map);
+ struct bpf_pifo_element *dst;
+ unsigned long irq_flags;
+ u64 prio;
+ int ret;
+
+ /* Check if any of the actual flag bits are set */
+ if (flags & ~BPF_PIFO_PRIO_MASK)
+ return -EINVAL;
+
+ prio = flags & BPF_PIFO_PRIO_MASK;
Please let me know how you calculate 64 bits while I only calculate 60
bits (for skb case, obviously)?
Wait for a second, as BPF_EXIST is already a bit, I think you have 59
bits here actually...
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-17 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-13 11:14 [RFC PATCH 00/17] xdp: Add packet queueing and scheduling capabilities Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] dev: Move received_rps counter next to RPS members in softnet data Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] bpf: Expand map key argument of bpf_redirect_map to u64 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] bpf: Use 64-bit return value for bpf_prog_run Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] bpf: Add a PIFO priority queue map type Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] pifomap: Add queue rotation for continuously increasing rank mode Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] xdp: Add dequeue program type for getting packets from a PIFO Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] bpf: Teach the verifier about referenced packets returned from dequeue programs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] bpf: Add helpers to dequeue from a PIFO map Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] bpf: Introduce pkt_uid member for PTR_TO_PACKET Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] bpf: Implement direct packet access in dequeue progs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] dev: Add XDP dequeue hook Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] bpf: Add helper to schedule an interface for TX dequeue Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] libbpf: Add support for dequeue program type and PIFO map type Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] libbpf: Add support for querying dequeue programs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 5:36 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-07-14 10:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] selftests/bpf: Add verifier tests for dequeue prog Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 5:38 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-07-14 6:45 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-07-14 18:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-07-15 11:11 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] selftests/bpf: Add test for XDP queueing through PIFO maps Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 5:41 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-07-14 10:18 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] samples/bpf: Add queueing support to xdp_fwd sample Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 18:36 ` [RFC PATCH 00/17] xdp: Add packet queueing and scheduling capabilities Stanislav Fomichev
2022-07-13 21:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-13 22:56 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-07-14 10:46 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 17:24 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-07-15 1:12 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-15 12:55 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-17 19:12 ` Cong Wang
2022-07-18 12:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 6:34 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-07-17 18:17 ` Cong Wang
2022-07-17 18:41 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-07-17 19:23 ` Cong Wang [this message]
2022-07-18 12:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-14 14:05 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-07-14 14:56 ` Dave Taht
2022-07-14 15:33 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-07-14 16:21 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-17 17:46 ` Cong Wang
2022-07-18 12:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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