From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: dsa: add support for retrieving the interface mode
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 15:20:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtqkBPZUe5j262Z8@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtqNkSDLRDtuooy/@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
> > The way I understand what you're saying is that there is no guarantee
> > that the DSA master and CPU port will agree whether to use in-band
> > autoneg or not here (and implicitly, there is no guarantee that this
> > link will work):
> >
> > ð0 {
> > phy-mode = "2500base-x";
> > managed = "in-band-status";
> > };
> >
> > &switch_cpu_port {
> > ethernet = <ð0>;
> > phy-mode = "25000base-x";
>
> I'll assume that 25000 is a typo.
>
> > managed = "in-band-status";
> > };
>
> Today, there is no guarantee - because it depends on how people have
> chosen to implement 2500base-X, and whether the hardware requires the
> use of in-band AN or prohibits it.
In practice, a Marvell MAC and a Marvell switch are likely to work,
since Marvell produce and tested both ends. I would expect this to be
true for any vendor. It is only going to be a problem when you have
devices from different vendors. And they have different
interpretations of what 2500Base-X is.
So far, mixed vendor systems tend to be
1) Freescale FEC and Marvell switches, and the FEC it still only 1G RGMII
2) The smaller simpler devices which are 1G and do not yet use a SERDES.
So this might be a future problem we will have, as more devices start
supporting 2.5G and 5G, but hopefully those future devices follow the
standard.
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-22 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-15 16:00 [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] net: phylink: split out and export interface to caps translation Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] software node: allow named software node to be created Russell King
2022-07-15 19:57 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 12:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 13:27 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 18:43 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 18:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 19:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:39 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-18 20:48 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-19 7:18 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-29 12:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 20:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:38 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-19 8:50 ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-20 22:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 6:21 ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-18 20:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: dsa: add support for retrieving the interface mode Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 17:24 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 21:31 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 22:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 22:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 10:57 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 11:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 12:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 8:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-20 22:44 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 13:46 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 14:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-21 14:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 15:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 17:21 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-21 18:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 18:22 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 21:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 21:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 8:28 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 10:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 11:44 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 12:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 12:46 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 13:16 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 16:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 21:20 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 21:53 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 22:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 22:39 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-23 7:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-23 13:44 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-25 10:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-23 17:26 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-24 17:39 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 13:20 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2022-07-22 12:59 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-22 13:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 14:19 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: report the default interface mode for the port Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] net: dsa: use swnode fixed-link if using default params Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 20:11 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 21:36 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 18:59 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 20:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: remove handling for DSA and CPU ports Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 17:17 ` [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 23:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-16 11:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 11:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 13:13 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 8:53 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 12:45 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 13:02 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 14:25 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 23:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-27 9:00 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-27 13:38 ` Vladimir Oltean
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