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From: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	"Haiyang Zhang" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	"Dexuan Cui" <decui@microsoft.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Bryan Tan" <bryan-bt.tan@broadcom.com>,
	"Vishnu Dasa" <vishnu.dasa@broadcom.com>,
	"Broadcom internal kernel review list"
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] vsock: add namespace support to vhost-vsock
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 13:13:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+cC5+ngu1nMKmFe@devvm6277.cco0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <r6a6ihjw3etlb5chqsb65u7uhcav6q6pjxu65iqpp76423w2wd@kmctvoaywmbu>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:03:19PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> CCing Daniel
> 
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 01:59:34PM -0700, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > Picking up Stefano's v1 [1], this series adds netns support to
> > vhost-vsock. Unlike v1, this series does not address guest-to-host (g2h)
> > namespaces, defering that for future implementation and discussion.
> > 
> > Any vsock created with /dev/vhost-vsock is a global vsock, accessible
> > from any namespace. Any vsock created with /dev/vhost-vsock-netns is a
> > "scoped" vsock, accessible only to sockets in its namespace. If a global
> > vsock or scoped vsock share the same CID, the scoped vsock takes
> > precedence.
> > 
> > If a socket in a namespace connects with a global vsock, the CID becomes
> > unavailable to any VMM in that namespace when creating new vsocks. If
> > disconnected, the CID becomes available again.
> 
> I was talking about this feature with Daniel and he pointed out something
> interesting (Daniel please feel free to correct me):
> 
>     If we have a process in the host that does a listen(AF_VSOCK) in a
> namespace, can this receive connections from guests connected to
> /dev/vhost-vsock in any namespace?
> 
>     Should we provide something (e.g. sysctl/sysfs entry) to disable
> this behaviour, preventing a process in a namespace from receiving
> connections from the global vsock address space (i.e.      /dev/vhost-vsock
> VMs)?
> 
> I understand that by default maybe we should allow this behaviour in order
> to not break current applications, but in some cases the user may want to
> isolate sockets in a namespace also from being accessed by VMs running in
> the global vsock address space.
> 

Adding this strict namespace mode makes sense to me, and I think the
sysctl/sysfs approach works well to minimize application changes. The
approach we were taking was to only allow /dev/vhost-vsock-netns (no
global /dev/vhost-vsock mixed in on the system), but adding the explicit
system-wide option I think improves the overall security posture of g2h
connections.

> Indeed in this series we have talked mostly about the host -> guest path (as
> the direction of the connection), but little about the guest -> host path,
> maybe we should explain it better in the cover/commit
> descriptions/documentation.
> 

Sounds good!

Best,
Bobby

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-28 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-12 20:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] vsock: add namespace support to vhost-vsock Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] vsock: add network namespace support Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-19 13:02   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-19 19:00     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-20  8:57       ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 20:56         ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] vsock/virtio_transport_common: handle netns of received packets Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-19 13:26   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-19 19:05     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] vhost/vsock: use netns of process that opens the vhost-vsock-netns device Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-19 14:15   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-19 19:28     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-19 21:09   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-03-20  9:08     ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 21:05       ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-21 10:02         ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-21 16:43           ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-26  0:11           ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-27  9:14             ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-28 16:07               ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-28 16:19                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-28 20:14                   ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-20 20:57     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-13  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] vsock: add namespace support to vhost-vsock Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-13 15:37   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-13 16:20     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-21 19:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-03-22  1:04   ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-28 17:03 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-28 20:13   ` Bobby Eshleman [this message]
2025-04-01 19:05   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-02  0:21     ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-04-02  8:13       ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-02  9:21         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-02 22:18           ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-04-02 22:28             ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-04-03  9:33               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-03 19:42                 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-04-04 13:05             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-18 17:57               ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-04-22 13:35                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-03  9:01           ` Stefano Garzarella

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