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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	aeh@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:48:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+rHYq0ItKiyshMY@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67e44a9f.050a0220.31c403.3ad3@mx.google.com>

Hello Boqun, Waimn

On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:42:37AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 10:10:28AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 01:02:12PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> [...]
> > > > > > Thinking about it more, doing it in a lockless way is probably a good
> > > > > > idea.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > If we are using hazard pointer for synchronization, should we also take off
> > > > > "_rcu" from the list iteration/insertion/deletion macros to avoid the
> > > > > confusion that RCU is being used?
> > > > > 
> > > > We can, but we probably want to introduce a new set of API with suffix
> > > > "_lockless" or something because they will still need a lockless fashion
> > > > similar to RCU list iteration/insertion/deletion.
> > > 
> > > The lockless part is just the iteration of the list. Insertion and deletion
> > > is protected by lockdep_lock().
> > > 
> > > The current hlist_*_rcu() macros are doing the right things for lockless use
> > > case too. We can either document that RCU is not being used or have some
> > > _lockless helpers that just call the _rcu equivalent.
> > 
> > We used to have _lockless helper, but we got rid of them.  Not necessarily
> > meaning that we should not add them back in, but...  ;-)
> > 
> 
> I will probably go with using *_rcu() first with some comments, if this
> "hazard pointers for hash table" is a good idea in other places, we can
> add *_hazptr() or pick a better name then.

I am trying to figure out what are the next steps to get this issue
solve.

Would you mind help me to understand what _rcu() fuction you are
suggesting and what will it replace?

Thank you,
--breno

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-31 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21  9:30 [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization Breno Leitao
2025-03-21 10:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-21 14:22   ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-24 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-24 12:23   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 12:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 19:21     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-24 19:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  0:47         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  1:56           ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25  3:41             ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]               ` <934d794b-7ebc-422c-b4fe-3e658a2e5e7a@redhat.com>
2025-03-25 14:57                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 18:45                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 19:23                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 19:42                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 23:20                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26  5:25                         ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                           ` <df237702-55c3-466b-b51e-f3fe46ae03ba@redhat.com>
2025-03-26 16:40                             ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 16:47                               ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 17:02                                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 17:10                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-26 18:42                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 21:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 16:48                                       ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2025-03-31 17:34                                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:26                             ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:33                               ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 18:33                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 18:57                                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 21:21                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 21:47                                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 17:42                               ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-09 10:00 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-09 13:57   ` Waiman Long
2025-07-09 14:57     ` Boqun Feng

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