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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	aeh@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:42:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-MHHFTS3kcfWIlL@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1ae824f-f506-49f7-8864-1adc0f7cbee6@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 03:23:30PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
[...]
> > > > That commit seemed fixing a race between disabling lockdep and
> > > > unregistering key, and most importantly, call zap_class() for the
> > > > unregistered key even if lockdep is disabled (debug_locks = 0). It might
> > > > be related, but I'm not sure that's the reason of putting
> > > > synchronize_rcu() there. Say you want to synchronize between
> > > > /proc/lockdep and lockdep_unregister_key(), and you have
> > > > synchronize_rcu() in lockdep_unregister_key(), what's the RCU read-side
> > > > critical section at /proc/lockdep?
> > > I agree that the commit that I mentioned is not relevant to the current
> > > case. You are right that is_dynamic_key() is the only function that is
> > > problematic, the other two are protected by the lockdep_lock. So they are
> > > safe. Anyway, I believe that the actual race happens in the iteration of the
> > > hashed list in is_dynamic_key(). The key that you save in the
> > > lockdep_key_hazptr in your proposed patch should never be the key (dead_key)
> > The key stored in lockdep_key_hazptr is the one that the rest of the
> > function will use after is_dynamic_key() return true. That is,
> > 
> > 	CPU 0				CPU 1
> > 	=====				=====
> > 	WRITE_ONCE(*lockdep_key_hazptr, key);
> > 	smp_mb();
> > 
> > 	is_dynamic_key():
> > 	  hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(k, hash_head, hash_entry) {
> > 	    if (k == key) {
> > 	      found = true;
> > 	      break;
> > 	    }
> > 	  }
> > 	  				lockdep_unregister_key():
> > 					  hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(k, hash_head, hash_entry) {
> > 					    if (k == key) {
> > 					      hlist_del_rcu(&k->hash_entry);
> > 				              found = true;
> > 				              break;
> > 					    }
> > 					  }
> > 
> > 				        smp_mb();
> > 
> > 					synchronize_lockdep_key_hazptr():
> > 					  for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> > 					    <wait for the hazptr slot on
> > 					    that CPU to be not equal to
> > 					    the removed key>
> > 					  }
> > 
> > 
> > , so that if is_dynamic_key() finds a key was in the hash, even though
> > later on the key would be removed by lockdep_unregister_key(), the
> > hazard pointers guarantee lockdep_unregister_key() would wait for the
> > hazard pointer to release.
> > 
> > > that is passed to lockdep_unregister_key(). In is_dynamic_key():
> > > 
> > >      hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(k, hash_head, hash_entry) {
> > >                  if (k == key) {
> > >                          found = true;
> > >                          break;
> > >                  }
> > >          }
> > > 
> > > key != k (dead_key), but before accessing its content to get to hash_entry,
> > It is the dead_key.
> > 
> > > an interrupt/NMI can happen. In the mean time, the structure holding the key
> > > is freed and its content can be overwritten with some garbage. When
> > > interrupt/NMI returns, hash_entry can point to anything leading to crash or
> > > an infinite loop.  Perhaps we can use some kind of synchronization mechanism
> > No, hash_entry cannot be freed or overwritten because the user has
> > protect the key with hazard pointers, only when the user reset the
> > hazard pointer to NULL, lockdep_unregister_key() can then return and the
> > key can be freed.
> > 
> > > between is_dynamic_key() and lockdep_unregister_key() to prevent this kind
> > > of racing. For example, we can have an atomic counter associated with each
> > The hazard pointer I proposed provides the exact synchronization ;-)
> 
> What I am saying is that register_lock_class() is trying to find a newkey
> while lockdep_unregister_key() is trying to take out an oldkey (newkey !=
> oldkey). If they happens in the same hash list, register_lock_class() will
> put newkey into the hazard pointer, but synchronize_lockdep_key_hazptr()
> call from lockdep_unregister_key() is checking for oldkey which is not the
> one saved in the hazard pointer. So lockdep_unregister_key() will return and
> the key will be freed and reused while is_dynamic_key() may just have a
> reference to the oldkey and trying to access its content which is invalid. I
> think this is a possible scenario.
> 

Oh, I see. And yes, the hazard pointers I proposed cannot prevent this
race unfortunately. (Well, technically we can still use an extra slot to
hold the key in the hash list iteration, but that would generates a lot
of stores, so it won't be ideal). But...

[...]
> > > head of the hashed table. is_dynamic_key() can increment the counter if it
> > > is not zero to proceed and lockdep_unregister_key() have to make sure it can
> > > safely decrement the counter to 0 before going ahead. Just a thought!
> > > 

Your idea inspires another solution with hazard pointers, we can
put the pointer of the hash_head into the hazard pointer slot ;-)

in register_lock_class():

		/* hazptr: protect the key */
		WRITE_ONCE(*key_hazptr, keyhashentry(lock->key));

		/* Synchronizes with the smp_mb() in synchronize_lockdep_key_hazptr() */
		smp_mb();

		if (!static_obj(lock->key) && !is_dynamic_key(lock->key)) {
			return NULL;
		}

in lockdep_unregister_key():

	/* Wait until register_lock_class() has finished accessing k->hash_entry. */
	synchronize_lockdep_key_hazptr(keyhashentry(key));


which is more space efficient than per hash list atomic or lock unless
you have 1024 or more CPUs.

Regards,
Boqun

> > > Cheers,
> > > Longman
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-25 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21  9:30 [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization Breno Leitao
2025-03-21 10:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-21 14:22   ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-24 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-24 12:23   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 12:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 19:21     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-24 19:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  0:47         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  1:56           ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25  3:41             ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]               ` <934d794b-7ebc-422c-b4fe-3e658a2e5e7a@redhat.com>
2025-03-25 14:57                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 18:45                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 19:23                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 19:42                     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-03-25 23:20                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26  5:25                         ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                           ` <df237702-55c3-466b-b51e-f3fe46ae03ba@redhat.com>
2025-03-26 16:40                             ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 16:47                               ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 17:02                                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 17:10                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-26 18:42                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 21:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 16:48                                       ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-31 17:34                                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:26                             ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:33                               ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 18:33                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 18:57                                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 21:21                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 21:47                                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 17:42                               ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-09 10:00 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-09 13:57   ` Waiman Long
2025-07-09 14:57     ` Boqun Feng

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