From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 08/11] docs: net: document netdev notifier expectations
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:57:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-W7nfFdv8u-SZTY@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250327123403.6147088d@kernel.org>
On 03/27, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 12:16:13 -0700 Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > +* ``NETDEV_REGISTER``
> > > +* ``NETDEV_UP``
> > > +* ``NETDEV_UNREGISTER``
> >
> > Can I ask the obvious question - anything specific that's hard in also
> > taking it in DOWN or just no time to investigate? Symmetry would be
> > great.
The latter: I added locks for DOWN, hit a dev_close somewhere, and
decided no to go down the rabbit hole.
> Looking at patch 4 maybe we should do the opposite. This was my
> original commit msg for locking UNREGISTER:
>
> net: make NETDEV_UNREGISTER and instance lock more consistent
>
> The NETDEV_UNREGISTER notifier gets called under the ops lock
> when device changes namespace but not during real unregistration.
> Take it consistently, XSK tries to poke at netdev queue state
> from this notifier.
>
> So if the only caller currently under the lock is netns change, and
> we already split that to release the lock - maybe we can make
> UNREGISTER always unlocked instead?
That sounds very sensible, let me try it out and run the tests.
I'll have to drop the lock twice, once for NETDEV_UNREGISTER
and another time for move_netdevice_notifiers_dev_net, but since
the device is unlisted, nothing should touch it (in theory)?
netif_change_net_namespace is already the first thing that happens
in do_setlink, so I won't be converting it to dev_xxx (lmk if I
miss something here).
If it goes well, I'll also hack your xsk patch to grab the ops lock
in xsk_notifier:NETDEV_UNREGISTER, I think that's the only thing
that needs changes. The ugly bonding and teaming unlock/locks
will go away (which is a very nice side effect).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-27 20:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-27 13:56 [PATCH net v2 00/11] net: hold instance lock during NETDEV_UP/REGISTER/UNREGISTER Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 01/11] net: switch to netif_disable_lro in inetdev_init Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 18:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 18:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 21:09 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 21:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-28 15:01 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 02/11] net: hold instance lock during NETDEV_REGISTER/UP/UNREGISTER Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 18:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 03/11] net: use netif_disable_lro in ipv6_add_dev Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 19:02 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 21:06 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 21:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-28 15:01 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 04/11] net: release instance lock during NETDEV_UNREGISTER for bond/team Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 05/11] net/mlx5e: use netdev_lockdep_set_classes Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 19:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 21:05 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-31 8:01 ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 06/11] netdevsim: add dummy device notifiers Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 19:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 21:04 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 21:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-28 6:03 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-03-28 15:07 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-28 15:04 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 07/11] net: dummy: request ops lock Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 08/11] docs: net: document netdev notifier expectations Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 19:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 19:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-27 20:57 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2025-03-27 21:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-28 15:03 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 09/11] net: designate XSK pool pointers in queues as "ops protected" Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 10/11] netdev: add "ops compat locking" helpers Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-27 13:56 ` [PATCH net v2 11/11] netdev: don't hold rtnl_lock over nl queue info get when possible Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-28 8:07 ` [PATCH net v2 00/11] net: hold instance lock during NETDEV_UP/REGISTER/UNREGISTER Taehee Yoo
2025-03-28 15:43 ` Stanislav Fomichev
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