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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Tristram.Ha@microchip.com,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] net: pcs: xpcs: Add special code to operate in Microchip KSZ9477 switch
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5jOhzmQAGkv9Jlw@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250128102128.z3pwym6kdgz4yjw4@skbuf>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 12:21:28PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 09:24:45AM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 07:32:25PM -0800, Tristram.Ha@microchip.com wrote:
> > > For 1000BaseX mode setting neg_mode to false works, but that does not
> > > work for SGMII mode.  Setting 0x18 value in register 0x1f8001 allows
> > > 1000BaseX mode to work with auto-negotiation enabled.
> > 
> > I'm not sure (a) exactly what the above paragraph is trying to tell me,
> > and (b) why setting the AN control register to 0x18, which should only
> > affect SGMII, has an effect on 1000BASE-X.
> > 
> > Note that a config word formatted for SGMII can result in a link with
> > 1000BASE-X to come up, but it is not correct. So, I highly recommend you
> > check the config word sent by the XPCS to the other end of the link.
> > Bit 0 of that will tell you whether it is SGMII-formatted or 802.3z
> > formatted.
> 
> I, too, am concerned about the sentence "setting neg_mode to false works".
> If this is talking about the only neg_mode field that is a boolean, aka
> struct phylink_pcs :: neg_mode, then setting it to false is not
> something driver customizable, it should be true for API compliance,
> and all that remains false in current kernel trees will eventually get
> converted to true, AFAIU. If 1000BaseX works by setting xpcs->pcs.neg_mode
> to false and not modifying anything else, it should be purely a
> coincidence that it "works", since that makes the driver comparisons
> with PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_* constants meaningless.
> 
> > According to the KSZ9477 data, the physid is 0x7996ced0 (which is the
> > DW value according to the xpcs header file). We also read the PMA ID
> > (xpcs->info.pma). Can this be used to identify the KSZ9477 without
> > introducing quirks?
> 
> If nothing else works, and it turns out that different IP integrations
> report the same value in ID registers but need different handling, then
> in principle the hack approach is also on the table. SJA1105, whose
> hardware reads zeroes for the ID registers, reports a fake and unique ID
> for the XPCS to identify it, because it, like the KSZ9477 driver, is in
> control of the MDIO read operations and can selectively manipulate their
> result.

Further review of the KS9477 documentation finds this:

5.5.9 SGMII AUTO-NEGOTIATION CONTROL REGISTER

"After making changes to this register, the changes don’t take effect
until SGMII Auto-Negotiation Advertisement Register is written."

In xpcs_config_aneg_c37_sgmii() we have:

        ret = xpcs_modify(xpcs, MDIO_MMD_VEND2, DW_VR_MII_AN_CTRL, mask, val);
        if (ret < 0)
                return ret;

However, MII_ADVERTISE in MDIO_MMD_VEND2 is not written by this
function. If the documentation is correct, then this has no effect
on KS9477, and could be part of the problem.

I notice the SJA1105 doesn't make any similar statement, so I wonder
what the original Synopsys documentation says about the AN control
register.

Note that xpcs_config_aneg_c37_1000basex() does also write this
register, but it is followed by a write to the MII_ADVERTISE
register.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-28  3:32 [PATCH RFC net-next 0/2] Add SGMII port support to KSZ9477 switch Tristram.Ha
2025-01-28  3:32 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/2] net: pcs: xpcs: Add special code to operate in Microchip " Tristram.Ha
2025-01-28  9:24   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-28 10:21     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-28 12:33       ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-01-28 15:23         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-28 16:32           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-28 18:26             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-29  0:31           ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-29 21:12             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-29 22:05               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-29 23:05                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-30 12:44                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-30 17:42                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-30  4:50                 ` [WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED]Re: " Tristram.Ha
2025-01-30 10:02                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-30 11:02                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-30 11:20                       ` Jose Abreu
2025-01-31 14:36                       ` Jose Abreu
2025-01-31 15:49                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-01  1:12                           ` [WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED]Re: " Tristram.Ha
2025-02-01  9:20                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-31  2:35                     ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-30 10:15                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-31  2:35                     ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-31 13:35                       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-02-01  1:11                         ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-30  4:50               ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-30  9:59                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-31  2:24                   ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-31  9:43                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-30 13:24                 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-31  2:21                   ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-28 12:40       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-28 13:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-28 13:39     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-28 15:43   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-01-29  0:31     ` Tristram.Ha
2025-01-28  3:32 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/2] net: dsa: microchip: Add SGMII port support to " Tristram.Ha
2025-01-28  9:38   ` Russell King (Oracle)

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