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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Bryan Whitehead <bryan.whitehead@microchip.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	Marcin Wojtas <marcin.s.wojtas@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 9/9] net: stmmac: convert to phylink managed EEE support
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:13:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7YtWmkVl0rWFvQO@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <203871c2-c673-4a98-a0a3-299d1cf71cf0@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 05:52:34PM +0000, Jon Hunter wrote:
> On 19/02/2025 15:36, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > So clearly the phylink resolver is racing with the rest of the stmmac
> > resume path - which doesn't surprise me in the least. I believe I raised
> > the fact that calling phylink_resume() before the hardware was ready to
> > handle link-up is a bad idea precisely because of races like this.
> > 
> > The reason stmmac does this is because of it's quirk that it needs the
> > receive clock from the PHY in order for stmmac_reset() to work.
> 
> I do see the reset fail infrequently on previous kernels with this device
> and when it does I see these messages ...
> 
>  dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet: Failed to reset the dma
>  dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: stmmac_hw_setup: DMA engine
>   initialization failed

I wonder whether it's also racing with phylib, but phylink_resume()
calling phylink_start() going in to call phy_start() is all synchronous.
That causes __phy_resume() to be called.

Which PHY device/driver is being used?

> > So, my preference would be to move phylink_resume() later, removing
> > the race condition. If there's any regressions, then we need to
> > _properly_ solve them by ensuring that the PHY keeps the RX clock
> > running by honouring PHY_F_RXC_ALWAYS_ON. That's going to need
> > everyone to test their stmmac platforms to find all the cases that
> > need fixing...
> 
> Thanks for the in-depth analysis and feedback. We have 3 SoCs that use this
> driver and so I will do some testing with this change on all of them.

Thanks!

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-15 20:42 [PATCH net-next 0/9] net: add phylink managed EEE support Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] net: mdio: add definition for clock stop capable bit Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] net: phy: add support for querying PHY clock stop capability Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] net: phylink: add phylink_link_is_up() helper Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] net: phylink: add EEE management Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] net: mvneta: convert to phylink EEE implementation Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] net: mvpp2: add " Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-16  8:27   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-01-15 20:42 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: lan743x: use netdev in lan743x_phylink_mac_link_down() Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:43 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] net: lan743x: convert to phylink managed EEE Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-15 20:43 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] net: stmmac: convert to phylink managed EEE support Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-13 11:05   ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-13 11:37     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-13 12:00       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-14 10:58         ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-14 11:21           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-14 17:03             ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-19 14:01             ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-19 15:36               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-19 17:52                 ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-19 19:13                   ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-02-19 20:05                     ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-19 20:57                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-25 14:21                         ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-26 10:02                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-26 10:11                             ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-26 10:59                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-26 15:55                                 ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-26 16:00                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-26 16:06                                     ` Jon Hunter
2025-02-26 11:37                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-02-26 17:24                                 ` Jon Hunter
2025-01-16  0:40 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] net: add " Jacob Keller
2025-01-17  1:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2025-01-17  8:56 ` Jiawen Wu
2025-01-17  9:05   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-17 10:17     ` Jiawen Wu
2025-01-17 12:23       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-20  1:51         ` Jiawen Wu
2025-01-20  9:54           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-20  9:59             ` Jiawen Wu

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