From: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>,
Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@oracle.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
Andy Gospodarek <gospo@broadcom.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Nelson,
Shannon" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
Michael Chan <michael.chan@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] bnxt: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_bnxt
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:34:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7z0ADkimCkhr7Xz@x130> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250218153110.0c10e72c@kernel.org>
On 18 Feb 15:31, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:42:48 -0700 David Ahern wrote:
>> On 2/18/25 1:05 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 09:24:35AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Any resources in use by the netdev stack can only be created and
>> >> modified by established netdev tools."
>> >
>> > That is already a restriction described in the doc, not just netdev,
>> > but any kernel driver running with any kernel owned resource. You
>> > can't reach in and change kernel owned objects.
>>
>> ok, then Jakub's concerns should be met.
>
>I appreciate the doc, but no, it's not enough. The fwctl interface must
>not be exposed if RDMA is disabled or driver not loaded.
>
Jason's proposal was completely different, he asked that if only netdev is
present then we can explicitly block fwctl. Tying fwctl to RDMA makes no
sense for most of the drivers that will be using it, so I don't support
such suggestion not even blocking fwctl for netdev only systems, if one
can load RDMA and still can control the device, then Jakub's concerns are
not met, so what's the point?
The whole Idea of blocking fwctl in specific configurations has no
technical merit, if someone doesn't want fwctl in their system, then let's
implement a devlink knob like we have for all ulps.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-24 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-07 0:13 [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce fwctl subystem Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] fwctl: Add basic structure for a class subsystem with a cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 23:32 ` Dan Williams
2025-02-07 23:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 0:08 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] fwctl: Basic ioctl dispatch for the character device Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 12:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 13:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 0:16 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-10 15:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 12:42 ` Przemek Kitszel
2025-02-13 18:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] fwctl: FWCTL_INFO to return basic information about the device Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 13:06 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 0:21 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] taint: Add TAINT_FWCTL Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 13:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-08 0:24 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] fwctl: FWCTL_RPC to execute a Remote Procedure Call to device firmware Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 0:28 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] fwctl: Add documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 14:42 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-10 15:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 0:40 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] fwctl/mlx5: Support for communicating with mlx5 fw Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 13:19 ` Przemek Kitszel
2025-02-13 14:25 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-13 19:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mlx5: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_mlx5 Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] fwctl/bnxt: Support communicating with bnxt fw Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 14:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 15:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:13 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] bnxt: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_bnxt Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 0:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07 3:17 ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-07 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 15:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07 20:25 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-07 21:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-08 1:10 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-08 1:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08 3:24 ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-11 1:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-11 7:55 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 14:27 ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-12 14:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 18:36 ` Nelson, Shannon
2025-02-12 13:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-14 1:03 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-17 12:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-02-17 19:02 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 16:24 ` David Ahern
2025-02-18 20:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-18 21:42 ` David Ahern
2025-02-18 23:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-24 22:34 ` Saeed Mahameed [this message]
2025-02-07 23:29 ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-08 0:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07 21:41 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce fwctl subystem Dan Williams
2025-02-07 21:58 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-11 9:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-13 17:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 17:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 22:21 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-02-13 2:30 ` Nelson, Shannon
2025-02-13 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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