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From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@openvpn.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	ryazanov.s.a@gmail.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Liang <shaw.leon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 18/24] ovpn: add support for peer floating
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:12:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8rGnTaRE_mph_tD@hog> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3def5b5-3450-4ad0-aced-fd80af943c31@openvpn.net>

2025-03-06, 11:02:50 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> On 05/03/2025 17:56, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
> > 2025-03-05, 14:14:36 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> > > On 05/03/2025 12:20, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
> > > > 2025-03-05, 00:19:32 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> > > > > On 04/03/2025 19:37, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
> > > > > > 2025-03-04, 01:33:48 +0100, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
> > > > > > > +void ovpn_peer_endpoints_update(struct ovpn_peer *peer, struct sk_buff *skb)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	struct hlist_nulls_head *nhead;
> > > > > > > +	struct sockaddr_storage ss;
> > > > > > > +	const u8 *local_ip = NULL;
> > > > > > > +	struct sockaddr_in6 *sa6;
> > > > > > > +	struct sockaddr_in *sa;
> > > > > > > +	struct ovpn_bind *bind;
> > > > > > > +	size_t salen = 0;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +	spin_lock_bh(&peer->lock);
> > > > > > > +	bind = rcu_dereference_protected(peer->bind,
> > > > > > > +					 lockdep_is_held(&peer->lock));
> > > > > > > +	if (unlikely(!bind))
> > > > > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +	switch (skb->protocol) {
> > > > > > > +	case htons(ETH_P_IP):
> > > > > > > +		/* float check */
> > > > > > > +		if (unlikely(!ovpn_bind_skb_src_match(bind, skb))) {
> > > > > > > +			if (bind->remote.in4.sin_family == AF_INET)
> > > > > > > +				local_ip = (u8 *)&bind->local;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If I'm reading this correctly, we always reuse the existing local
> > > > > > address when we have to re-create the bind, even if it doesn't match
> > > > > > the skb? The "local endpoint update" chunk below is doing that, but
> > > > > > only if we're keeping the same remote? It'll get updated the next time
> > > > > > we receive a packet and call ovpn_peer_endpoints_update.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That might irritate the RPF check on the other side, if we still use
> > > > > > our "old" source to talk to the new dest?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > +			sa = (struct sockaddr_in *)&ss;
> > > > > > > +			sa->sin_family = AF_INET;
> > > > > > > +			sa->sin_addr.s_addr = ip_hdr(skb)->saddr;
> > > > > > > +			sa->sin_port = udp_hdr(skb)->source;
> > > > > > > +			salen = sizeof(*sa);
> > > > > > > +			break;
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think the issue is simply this 'break' above - by removing it, everything
> > > > > should work as expected.
> > > > 
> > > > Only if the bind was of the correct family? Checking an IPv4 local
> > > > address (in the bind) against an IPv6 source address in the packet (or
> > > > the other way around) isn't going to work well.
> > > 
> > > Ah I understand what you mean.
> > > 
> > > The purpose of "local_ip" is to provide a working local endpoint to be used
> > > with the new remote address.
> > > However, if the float is switching family we can't re-use the same old local
> > > endpoint (hence the check).
> > > In this case we'll learn the "new" local address later.
> > > 
> > > Does it make sense?
> > 
> > Sure, but we could have learned it immediately from the packet we just
> > got, whether we're changing family or not. No need to wait for the
> > next RX packet to also learn the new local address.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> > 
> > But if we now do a dst_cache_reset with the peer float,
> > ovpn_udp*_output will have to do a new route/local address lookup and
> > I guess that should clean up the local address stored in the bind, and
> > then update the dst_cache with the local address we just found.
> 
> Right and this may not truly be what we want.
> 
> If peer X is sending packets to our IP1, we should at least try to reply
> from the same address.
>
> If we have two IPs, IP1 and IP2, and both can be used to reach peer X, we
> should always try to use the one where we received traffic from X in the
> first place.

I had a thought that it might not be our prefered address to talk to
X, but it would probably be, since we decided to use it (and thus X
used it as remote to talk to us).

> OTOH hand it is also true that with floating detection on both sides, the
> situation will converge quickly, but there might be a reason why X chose IP1
> as destination, therefore we should do our best to respect that.

And I guess the primary reason for X to choose IP1 would be "we sent
packets to X from IP1".

> So, even in case of float, we should still store the local endpoint and
> attempt fetching a route that takes that into consideration.
> Which I think is what is happening (assuming we reset the dst_cache on
> float).

Not at the same time as float, unless ovpn_peer_endpoints_update sets
local_ip = ip_hdr(skb)->daddr unconditionally on float?

Otherwise the next route lookup in ovpn_udpX_output will pick whatever
source address it wants (which would likely match what's in the
received skb during float, so probably fine anyway).

> ovpn_udpX_output() will:
> * get no rt from the cache
> * possibly confirm that saddr is ok
> * fetch the new rt using the provided saddr and daddr
> * update the cache.
> 
> That makes sense to me.
> Would you agree?

With dst_cache reset on float, yes. As long as we have that, the main
behavior seems correct to me. (maybe some corner cases will not be
handled optimally, but that can be improved later - which is most
likely what I've been discussing in these emails :))

[this could be a useful counter to add in the future: number of floats
and local address updates - so the user can check if that's increasing
"too often", which would indicate something weird is happening]

-- 
Sabrina

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-07 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-04  0:33 [PATCH v21 00/24] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 01/24] net: introduce OpenVPN Data Channel Offload (ovpn) Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 02/24] ovpn: add basic netlink support Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 03/24] ovpn: add basic interface creation/destruction/management routines Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 04/24] ovpn: keep carrier always on for MP interfaces Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 05/24] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_peer object Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 06/24] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_socket object Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 07/24] ovpn: implement basic TX path (UDP) Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 08/24] ovpn: implement basic RX " Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 09/24] ovpn: implement packet processing Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04 19:02   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04 23:35     ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-05 10:06       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 10/24] ovpn: store tunnel and transport statistics Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 11/24] ovpn: implement TCP transport Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 12/24] skb: implement skb_send_sock_locked_with_flags() Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 13/24] ovpn: add support for MSG_NOSIGNAL in tcp_sendmsg Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 14/24] ovpn: implement multi-peer support Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 15/24] ovpn: implement peer lookup logic Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 16/24] ovpn: implement keepalive mechanism Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 17/24] ovpn: add support for updating local UDP endpoint Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 18/24] ovpn: add support for peer floating Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04 18:37   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04 23:19     ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-05  0:19       ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-05 11:20       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-05 13:14         ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-05 16:56           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-06 10:02             ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-07 10:12               ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2025-03-10 12:57                 ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-10 22:32                   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 19/24] ovpn: implement peer add/get/dump/delete via netlink Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04 14:35   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04 21:42     ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 20/24] ovpn: implement key add/get/del/swap " Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04 12:00   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-04 12:11     ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04 23:09       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-05  1:00         ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-05 10:11           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-03-05 13:17             ` Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 21/24] ovpn: kill key and notify userspace in case of IV exhaustion Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 22/24] ovpn: notify userspace when a peer is deleted Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 23/24] ovpn: add basic ethtool support Antonio Quartulli
2025-03-04  0:33 ` [PATCH v21 24/24] testing/selftests: add test tool and scripts for ovpn module Antonio Quartulli

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